Browse Forums Building A New House 1 May 08, 2007 7:32 pm Hi Guys,
I just have a quick question regarding Standard Builders Range. If the Standard inclusions say you can choose from this and then you are limited to a very small choice when you get to colour selection, is there anything you can do about it. Any feedback would be appreciated. Tam Re: Standard builders Range 2May 08, 2007 8:04 pm Hi Tam,
I gather you are not happy with the builders colour range? You can elect to do some stuff yourself with some builders but it depends on who you are with.. What is it you dont like specifically? Matt Colour range 3May 08, 2007 8:16 pm On our standard inclusion it states from Standard builders Range, and then when I get to the colour selections there is a choice of 5 boards for all your tile selections.
Each board has floor, wall, kitchen splashback and shower grouped together and you cannot even swap between the boards . So basically five boards of white to grey to choose your colours from. Surely you should have more choice than that! I had been to the local tile company who has a standard builders range and would provise this for the same cost but i'm being told I would be charged more to use tiles that will not cost them more. I'm just not sure where I stand in arguing that I should be able to choose from the entire range and not pay more. Re: Standard builders Range 4May 08, 2007 8:33 pm You may be misenterpreting the meaning of the term Standard Builders Range.
The builder was saying you can select from the limited range they normally use, say 5 colours, 5 tiles. It gets too hard for them to have infinite selections. It seems unusual that you can't mix and match between THEIR standard range as it costs them nothing extra. The tile suppliers 'Builders Standard Range' is probably a line of 'cost effective' tiles the local builders use and has no relation to a particular builders standard range. Limited 5May 08, 2007 8:45 pm Thanks Bud977
This does make sense even if a little disapointing. The tile company were going to supply any of their standard range for the same price so it just feels like the building company are trying to get more $$$ up to $800 more for something that will not cost them any more just because it is not on their standard range. Thanks for your reply. Tam Re: Standard builders Range 6May 08, 2007 8:53 pm Here's a neat trick (and profitable).
1) Offer a low price. 2) Offer a very limited range of sets of materials and colours AND don't allow any swapping. Bonus points for putting together sets that nobody will want. 3) Charge $800 for any change even if its only swapping items between sets. 4) Pocket $800 for doing nothing (except pisss off the already hooked - and sooned to be gutted - customer). Yes, I'm a cynic. Re: Standard builders Range 7May 08, 2007 9:00 pm Casa2, you do have a point of course, this was one of the reasons I didn't want to build with one of the "biggies".
But of course in their display houses, they'll put tiles at $150/m2, and offer to build 'from a builder's range' at $25/m2. Just fantastic! Re: Standard builders Range 9May 08, 2007 9:30 pm Ask that question in Melbourne Casa and you 50% of the time you get the "I am not sure, we have never taken the time to add it up!!" response..
Do they think we are all stupid? Matt Re: Standard builders Range 10May 08, 2007 9:37 pm mattwalker Ask that question in Melbourne Casa and you 50% of the time you get the "I am not sure, we have never taken the time to add it up!!" response.. Do they think we are all stupid? Matt I always ask this question at the end of my visit and if I get the "I am not sure" response I simply state, "oh, I was after a builder that is organised. Thanks anyway." Re: Standard builders Range 11May 08, 2007 9:45 pm Oh I would love to be afly on the wall after you leave!! "geez bazza, what a nasty so and so!!" Matt Re: Standard builders Range 12May 08, 2007 10:01 pm How about these for alternatives:
1) If you can't organise to have the price of the dispaly home available, how could you possibly organise somethign as complicated as building my house. 2) If you can email me the answer tomorrow morning that would be great. I'd like to select a builder in the next few days. (Well, maybe not really.) 3) Don't you get aked this question all the time! 4) Is the price that uncompetative? 5) Are you here to help me or what? 6) You must think that customers have infinite money are happy to be tricked into paying you more. I could go on for ages. Basically, it just shows the hoops we have to jump through. My suggestion - don't sign anythign until you have everythign specified and remove all variables from the contract. Even if this adds a month to the project it will be better in the long run. If there is a variable such as a "what if we hit rock" allowance then mark the contract up such that you can get someone else to do the excavation if you want to. I'll be looking at the walls to see if you're there Matt Re: Standard builders Range 15May 09, 2007 9:51 am Tam Hi Guys, I just have a quick question regarding Standard Builders Range. If the Standard inclusions say you can choose from this and then you are limited to a very small choice when you get to colour selection, is there anything you can do about it. Any feedback would be appreciated. Tam I understand that feeling like you are 'limited' is quite frustrating. But (and in no way defending project builders) I think they only provide X amount of things to chose from to keep their costs down because they can buy in bulk. I would think that if every project builder had infinite choices that the price we would be paying to build these homes woule be a lot greater. Take my aunt's house for example. Lovely looking house. Their builder was Devine. She told me she had two choices in colour schemes - dark and light. Imagine that. At least you have five. Anyway, I'm sure if you talk to your builder you can organise to have something else. Just be prepared to pay extra. [sneakersss] Choices 16May 09, 2007 9:59 am I can understand they need to limit their choices.
In my case at the selection I was told there was no other option even if I wanted to pay extra! and If I wanted to do it myself afterwards there would be no credit on tiles. Then I'm told I can work something out with local tile suppliers who will charge the company no more for something within their standard builders range. I was happy with this until head office found out and now want to charge $700 odd for something they will not be charged extra for. In my mind this is just trying to line their pockets at a late stage when they could have done this the right way from the beginning. What we have done in a few theatres ( including my own) is run 2 layers of 13mm gyprock, but sounds insulation especially for the bass is really tricky as a lot of that… 4 2577 Look at your bill from the electricity company. It should detail the charges. You will need to do some estimating and some calculations. Then charge the… 8 4255 Site works are just about to start on our build with Blueprint in Midvale. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=106894 2 3960 |