Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jun 15, 2009 9:18 pm my land is corner, facing east and long side is north (to the street) ___ I I I I North I__I East Interestingly my builder told me just to have an eaves 450mm against west side (which is the back of the house) When i asked my builder if i should have eaves against North, south and eaves, he said: no need. i read somewhere in gov website, that you should have eaves facing north, and wide enough to keep away from summer sun but retain winter sun. so who's right ? should i need an eaves or not ? i am planning to build 2.59 m high house. if i do need an eaves in the north, how deep should i have the eaves, to maximise passive heating ? if i need eaves north, eaves west, it makes the house uneven if i don't have eaves for east and south, (aesthetic purpose) what's your thought ? thanks guys Final stage Re: Eaves or not to eaves 2Jun 15, 2009 9:23 pm My thoughts is put eaves around the whole house I am a great fan of eaves. cannot understand the idea that one would not need eaves on northern face of house, I always thought this was most important side There have been many previous threads on the topic of eaves, do a search and you will find a multitude of opinions on this. Re: Eaves or not to eaves 5Jun 15, 2009 10:09 pm Bring on the eaves! In my opinion, it just adds character to the house. Re: Eaves or not to eaves 7Jun 15, 2009 10:47 pm +1 vote for eaves. We LOVE eaves! Our house thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18335 Re: Eaves or not to eaves 9Jun 15, 2009 10:58 pm We were told aesthetically go for all or nothing when it came to eaves - architect was originally suggesting 90 for eaves we have brought it back to 60, the builder wants us to go for standard 45 - but we are holding our ground - we love deep eaves! Having no eaves is popular in europe - but they tend to have a cooler climate, deep eaves suit our aussie climate My Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=29109 Site Start: 5th January 2010 Base stage completed: 24th January 2010 Re: Eaves or not to eaves 10Jun 15, 2009 11:56 pm An ideal opportiunity to put eaves and also make sure you put all your living areas on the nothern side of the house. Kitchen, Living room and lounge areas on the north, Bedrooms laundry etc at the south. West large eaves helps - and consider vertical shading. East - not such an issue, large eaves help in summer, but are not ideal for winter. More info here. http://www.yourhome.gov.au/technical/fs45.html#principles Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ steve Re: Eaves or not to eaves 11Jun 16, 2009 12:00 am Eaves don't maximise winter heating, they minimise summer heating which is when you don't want heating. Our house faces north and works well in summer and winter. Autumn and spring are trickier, there are times when the amount of sun coming in isn't really beneficial for the temperature that day. We have eaves and wouldn't be without them. We have also planted deciduous trees. If the budget permitted I would have liked an adjustable louvred pergola. Another advantage of eaves is protection from rain. Re: Eaves or not to eaves 12Jun 16, 2009 7:55 am hey. thanks for the good response was happy when i read this morning (last night i was overslept, oh monday) i think my family, dinner and kitchen is toward north, or on the north side. here's my sketch, sorry if it doesn't look too good most bedroom, laundry are facing south the back of the house is west, now i am tempting not to put any windows on the west side, but aesthetically (again), someone ask me, how you not having a window in the west ? well, at least, i might put small window on the back. how deep is eaves that enough to cover the summer sun ? would it be best 45, 60 or 90 ? does an eaves actually help winter sun ? i came from country that normally dont have winter, hence i have little knowledge how to play with winter sun... based on yourhome.gov.au, they said, winter sun comes very low angle, which reason why you need eaves... whereas summer sun is high. but how do you measure the angle ? is it depend on how high your house is, your window ? for example: say if i want 45 eaves, and my window is 1 meter high. is this enough to keep away from summer sun? Yak Chat, how bout for melbourne, do they have different angle to brissy ? thanks guys Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Final stage Re: Eaves or not to eaves 13Jun 16, 2009 10:14 am +1 for eaves. After some deliberation with the missus, we decided we were going to have 450mm eaves on our house too. They look great and are practical.. Pic without eaves from our blog. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ My render of the house with 450mm eaves. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Blog : http://ournewhaven.blogspot.com/ (Modified Newhaven - Homestead Homes) Status : DA - Dec 09. Slabbed - Jan 10. Handover - Aug 10 Re: Eaves or not to eaves 14Jun 16, 2009 10:20 am We're having eaves. I think 450mm is standard? But we're considering 600mm. I dont know why, just looks better IMO Not sure how the angles and what not work out Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: Eaves or not to eaves 15Jun 16, 2009 10:24 am Bam :lol: Not sure how the angles and what not work out Should work out the same to what you have even with 600mm.. usually between 20-25degrees pitch (depending your design and council regs etc). If you have access to Better Homes and Gardens Chief Architect you can probably check the differences by getting the software to construct the roof for you. Blog : http://ournewhaven.blogspot.com/ (Modified Newhaven - Homestead Homes) Status : DA - Dec 09. Slabbed - Jan 10. Handover - Aug 10 Re: Eaves or not to eaves 16Jun 16, 2009 10:26 am ^ Are you saying that 450mm and 600mm provide the same sort of coverage/protection(insert correct word here hehe) Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: Eaves or not to eaves 18Jun 16, 2009 10:57 am Bam ^ Are you saying that 450mm and 600mm provide the same sort of coverage/protection(insert correct word here hehe) Oh no, i meant what it'll do to the roof lines. If you want to see the coverage protection, i'd recommend modelling the building and geolocate it in google earth, then you can make a shadowing diagram. Blog : http://ournewhaven.blogspot.com/ (Modified Newhaven - Homestead Homes) Status : DA - Dec 09. Slabbed - Jan 10. Handover - Aug 10 Re: Eaves or not to eaves 20Jun 16, 2009 11:16 am Howie Bam ^ Are you saying that 450mm and 600mm provide the same sort of coverage/protection(insert correct word here hehe) Oh no, i meant what it'll do to the roof lines. If you want to see the coverage protection, i'd recommend modelling the building and geolocate it in google earth, then you can make a shadowing diagram. 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