Matt, that pricing that you posted is when dealing with project home builders.
The costs for custom, architect designed homes is around the $1500-1800sqm.
In fact, I don't know if any that really build for less than $11,000 a square as a minimum.
I'm speaking from my experience here.
Custom and architect designed houses do things that project builders would never dream of. All that fancy stuff is what makes up the cost (no standard specifications that they can get suppliers to bid on for multiple homes)
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Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Size and cost 22Apr 22, 2007 8:15 pm What about the middle path ? I'm trying to go for a custom-designed home, but something that is as absolutely straight-forward and standard as possible. By that I mean standard doors, windows, fittings, cheap flooring, concentrated 'corner' of the house for all the plumbing work etc etc.
There's absolutely no odd architect-designed weirdness or cuteness. Where would this fall on the scale ? I'm getting very confused by this thread. With some of the prices quoted here I can't see how anyone could ever build anything other than a project home and hope to get their money back on resale... Re: Size and cost 23Apr 22, 2007 8:24 pm It depends where you build of course. In inner city or country acreage can cope with houses of this level, and in most cases they demand it to compete with surrounding homes.
In your normal outer suburban estate/development these homes aren't appropriate. If you look to build a traditional style custom house you'll end up somewere in the middle I'd say. The main point of this thread from my point of view is that the high volume project builders have given a false indication of normal actual build costs, hence why they are traditionally far larger than the entry level homes of the 70's and 80's and to a lesser extent 90's where massive volume builders and large scale development were less prevalent.  22 Sep 2006 90 Hobart Tasmania Loyal Member Re: Size and cost 24Apr 22, 2007 9:34 pm Ok you people, the price here in tassie for a brick veneer single level house on a concrete slab with double garage is approx $11,250 / sq or $1200 / m2.
Includes auto garage door, colourbond roof, painted skirtings, ss appliances, heat pump, carpets and tiling,smartstone kitchen benchtops. Certainly not an arch' design just slightly better than entry level, I would hate to think what an arch' designed house would cost down here.!! 19 Mar 2007 4,245 Sydney Gold Member Re: Size and cost 25Apr 22, 2007 10:31 pm All,
It's got to be the most fundamental and important question that needs to be answered on this forum - how much does it cost to build a new house? We have widely varying numbers. I've read through other posts, looked through this post and looked at the prices I've gathered and have come up with the following (I've included both square metre and square figures (for those that haven't made the jump to metric yet!)): Project House - Base Standard..............$900/m2.........$8300/sq Project House - Medium Standard........$1050/m2.........$9700/sq Project House – High Standard............$1200/m2.......$11000/sq Custom House - Medium Standard.......$1450/m2.......$13400/sq Custom House - High Standard............$1800/m2.......$16600/sq Custom House - Luxury Standard.........$2500/m2.......$23000/sq All prices are for full brick construction of at least 250 m2. If anyone has paid more than $2500/m2 for a house, I'd like to know since, except for a palace, I can't see how this level can be exceeded. Terry, I'm hoping to submit the plans to council in the next few months. I have a rough design that I've drawn up, which will need to be refined by an architect/building designer and then it’s off to Council. I will need to, and hence my interest in this topic, find a suitable builder in terms of quality, price and timeliness. mattwalker, I don't see how a house can be built for as little a $484/m2. If anyone has had a house built for less than $600/m2 I'd like to hear about it. Maybe if you doubled your figures it would be closer to the mark. When everything is said and done, the main thing is to ensure that market forces are employed, That is, get at least three (and preferably several more) quotes before establishing a price. I think many builders submit a quote for much more than the competitive price. What is there to lose? It's a quick quote and if the person is not paying attention, you might get lucky. I think architects tend to build “interesting” designs that push the price way up. It’s a conflict of interest. Architects need to push the building price up since their fees are usually based on the building costs. And builders are happy to oblige. Architect designed houses can cost much more than the above figures with a house that is NO BETTER, JUST MORE EXPENSIVE. Cheers, Casa Re: Size and cost 26Apr 22, 2007 10:43 pm Great post Casa2 great to see all the costs discussion summarised, although I'm not sure I'm getting what you mean about architect houses. In many cases I feel that an architect can produce a design that is better suited to the land than a project home could ever dream to. The best architect will work to a budget that you give them (as what happened in my case) and builders will come back and quote the same amount (although in my case the architect is employed by the builder). Re: Size and cost 27Apr 22, 2007 11:01 pm  Casa2mattwalker, I don't see how a house can be built for as little a $484/m2. If anyone has had a house built for less than $600/m2 I'd like to hear about it. Maybe if you doubled your figures it would be closer to the mark. Casa, Without doubting your ability to be correct perhaps check out this link. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ * Slightly higher in QLD + Country http://www.nationalbuilders.com.au/our- ... .php?id=52 These guys are a reasonably large builder in Victoria too.... 
Matt Note. I will never make a statement of fact without the means to back it up!  13 Nov 2006 183 Sydney Bronze Member Re: Size and cost 28Apr 23, 2007 8:33 pm Proof it is, but do you believe it?
The advertised price and final price of a finished house are not necessarily the same thing. In previous posts, it seemed that the actual price was about 25-35% on top of the advertised price. Re: Size and cost 29Apr 23, 2007 9:24 pm Aha but the maginal word is FROM.
There could be something specific about this figure, such as Price excludes site costs, council fees etc etc etc. Perhaps you could approachj them and find out?? Adrian B Adrian B Re: Size and cost 30Apr 23, 2007 10:26 pm Hey Adrian,
I am sure it doesnt include site costs, council fees etc... but what basic price home does?? The point was that a house can be built from $4600 per square.... Matt  19 Mar 2007 4,245 Sydney Gold Member Re: Size and cost 32Apr 23, 2007 10:38 pm  pasey25Great post Casa2 great to see all the costs discussion summarised, although I'm not sure I'm getting what you mean about architect houses. In many cases I feel that an architect can produce a design that is better suited to the land than a project home could ever dream to. The best architect will work to a budget that you give them (as what happened in my case) and builders will come back and quote the same amount (although in my case the architect is employed by the builder). pasey, If you approach a custom design builder and use their architect, you get the prices shown in my previous post. But if you approach an architect first you have to pay much more for the design and the house costs about 60% more for the same level of quality. Who wants to pay this? It's crazy. mattwalker, National Builders Group certainly has a very competitive price. Couldn't see if site costs are included and these can readily be $20k to $30k. This would still make it competitive. Also I noticed they have a large 6m x 6m carport in their design, which if included in the cost per area calculation would distort things. The carport is about 15% of the floorspace so the "carportlesss" price could be about 15% higher than the $484/m2 figure. However, even adding potential site costs and adjusting the build price by 15% to allow for the carport being included gives a price of about $650/m2, which is very good. A new benchmark in pricing and National Builders Group must be doing well with such prices. Let’s hope it's a sign of things to come and reflects the extra competitiveness that should be emerging in the eastern states with building starts the lowest they have been for 23 years. Yes, I'm in the market for a house building and could do with some price competitiveness. Cheers, Casa Re: Size and cost 33Apr 24, 2007 3:05 am We're thinking about signing off with National Builders for $7750 per square including site costs, double storey, evap cooling, down lights, an upstairs decking and downstairs alfresco room, double garage, all kitchen appliances, quite a few structural changes, but no floor coverings apart from wet areas. 19 Mar 2007 4,245 Sydney Gold Member Re: Size and cost 34Apr 24, 2007 9:46 am brittany,
Your $7750 per square price ($840/m2) fits in well with the "Project Home - Base Standard" price listed earlier. Once you add flooring you'll probably be exactly at the "Project Home - Base Standard" price level. You've got a few inclusions which makes it a good deal. Does your price include site costs? Does it include Coucil charges etc? Cheers, Casa Re: Size and cost 35Apr 26, 2007 6:18 pm mek, a custom house for $1050/m2 is great to hear. Is it a modified project home or something designed just for you from the ground up? Also does it include site costs and all the other odds and ends?[/quote]
All included. We were hit with a substantial invoice for additional concrete but I've included that in the m2 price. pasey25, we are building with Meletis Homes. Re: Size and cost 37Apr 29, 2007 12:10 pm Ok, so I did a bit of research on this yesterday.
I picked up the latest copy of the Herald Sun's Display Homes magazine - which has just been released. This magazine features 108 display homes with size and cost listed. There are several others which don't list the price too. These are for display homes around Victoria What I did was copy down all this data into an excel sheet and do some statistical analysis of the price by square meter. Note, it is approx 90-95% project builders vs custom builders. Down to the data: average price: $940sqm $8714per square maximum: $1923sqm $17830per square minimum: $540sqm $5007per square 19 Mar 2007 4,245 Sydney Gold Member Re: Size and cost 38Apr 29, 2007 1:40 pm pasey,
Thanks for taking the time to come up with the figures. Nice to see and fairly consistent with the figures on the previous page of this forum. Now that we know the general prices, all we need is to find a good designer and good builder. Cheers, Casa Mate, Appreciate your engagement here and interest in my posts. Thankyou! 14 6052 I agree and was one of my concerns re: gutter size. It may be a suck it and see item now as they have not fitted the appropriate size. with the tank overflow, I am… 4 2464 We are not far from you, next council over but that doesn't matter as CDC is generic. In the most simplest of terms, there are a lot of tricks to using the GFA… 3 2656  |
