Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Provincial Homes 521Aug 04, 2017 9:37 am Mind giving us more details? What were you building, where and what were all the holdups for? Im doing a single story at Box Hill and have had no real delays from them. Granted the slab isn't poured but things are definitely moving forward. Re: Provincial Homes 522Aug 04, 2017 9:50 am Hi We too have been in the Provincial Homes system for far longer than anticipated. Land at Oran Park registered almost a year ago and we were too on the verge of pulling the plug. Things have started to pick up in the last couple of days and I received the Construction Certificate this morning, so it now looks like we will see some movement at the site in the next month! Re: Provincial Homes 523Aug 04, 2017 9:54 am Duke145 Hi We too have been in the Provincial Homes system for far longer than anticipated. Land at Oran Park registered almost a year ago and we were too on the verge of pulling the plug. Things have started to pick up in the last couple of days and I received the Construction Certificate this morning, so it now looks like we will see some movement at the site in the next month! What were the delays caused by Duke? Re: Provincial Homes 524Aug 04, 2017 10:21 am 1st, The Developer and or Urban Growth NSW knocked back the plans because the house did not fit into the guidelines of a corner block and did not have enough street appeal, Amendments cost was approx $25K 2nd. Because everything had taken so long our loan application expired. As things have changed in the banking world with all the scare mongering by the media with regards to the property market bubble bursting, and the extra incurred by the plan changes and a price rise as well as being self employed. We were unable to secure the loan for the new amount needed and had to get our broker looking for a new lender. 3rd. As the new lender was taking over the mortgage on the block of land, paperwork from them to Provincial was not released until the loan on the land settled which was this week. Re: Provincial Homes 525Aug 04, 2017 10:31 am Duke145 1st, The Developer and or Urban Growth NSW knocked back the plans because the house did not fit into the guidelines of a corner block and did not have enough street appeal, Amendments cost was approx $25K 2nd. Because everything had taken so long our loan application expired. As things have changed in the banking world with all the scare mongering by the media with regards to the property market bubble bursting, and the extra incurred by the plan changes and a price rise as well as being self employed. We were unable to secure the loan for the new amount needed and had to get our broker looking for a new lender. 3rd. As the new lender was taking over the mortgage on the block of land, paperwork from them to Provincial was not released until the loan on the land settled which was this week. Ok...so none of the delays are the builders fault. People need to be careful who they criticise online. Getting into shaky legal territory. Re: Provincial Homes 526Aug 04, 2017 11:34 am Duke145 1st, The Developer and or Urban Growth NSW knocked back the plans because the house did not fit into the guidelines of a corner block and did not have enough street appeal, Amendments cost was approx $25K 2nd. Because everything had taken so long our loan application expired. As things have changed in the banking world with all the scare mongering by the media with regards to the property market bubble bursting, and the extra incurred by the plan changes and a price rise as well as being self employed. We were unable to secure the loan for the new amount needed and had to get our broker looking for a new lender. 3rd. As the new lender was taking over the mortgage on the block of land, paperwork from them to Provincial was not released until the loan on the land settled which was this week. Yea look I feel for you but literally nothing do to with provincial. You pick the house, they submit and it got knocked back. Sucks and so does the amendment cost but that one is not really fair to blame completely on Provincial. You have not really mentioned the time this added on but my personal experience is majority of the time is provincial waiting on CDC, myself, developer. Your second point is more on your lender. And even then blame cant really fall on them as they have strict guidelines to adhere to after the little hiccup in 2008. They dont care about a bubble as much as your ability to repay the loan. So that is 100% nothing to do with provincial. 3rd again all your lender. not provincial. Re: Provincial Homes 527Aug 27, 2017 12:30 am Duke145 I also have a Uban Growth or Landcom corner lot which is also a very unsual lot in the subdivision. With these lots, special design controls apply. Various councils has various lead time in approving a DA, which depends on how many applications they are getting & how much resource that council has got. As usual corner lots are not staight forward DA and i belive the DA needs to be lodged at the council & not Private certifier for DA. Mine lodged with Council, got approved under 8 weeks with council. I didnt bother about Landcom's Landscaping rebate so had nothing to do with Landcoms approval. Landcom sold lands at various places offering rebate for Landscaping and design. Re: Provincial Homes 528Aug 27, 2017 12:34 am Duke145 on an online forum one cannot tell unless the floor plan is seen, also each every land is different to other when it comes to DA (Development Approval) A DA for knock down rebuild is different to a new block of land and all lots has different situations whether its a new land or established land. Re: Provincial Homes 529Aug 27, 2017 12:46 am samuelhon Sorry to hear this. However you bought a land which i guess is registered & it is a normal process which takes enormous amount of time to materialise. Wish it was like fast food driveway. Big builders are struggling. G J Gardner is lagged by 3 to 4 months, Metricon is too all are when it comes delivering construction. There is so much construction happening that the Govt had to get helping hand on 457 visas the last few years. At least Provincial do not have that issue. And when it comes to other matters the whole building industry is lagged. You just need patience. The land i paid deposit for took 16 months for settlement. Then DA took 8 weeks. Then Construction certificate took around 10 weeks due to complication which isnt Provincial Homes fault. As in a land there are many stake holders. ie; Council, The Gas & Electricity company, Sydney water etc. There are so many process in the back ground which we have no idea about. Building a home isnt so straight forward. Have faith and cheer up. Re: Provincial Homes 530Aug 27, 2017 12:51 am jose access to land issue is due to accidents and insurances & also Work Cover which is NSW Govt body. also you are in good hands with Troy. If humans could be cloned then more Troys would be cloned. Means if you are with Troy "you are laughing" he will look after you as his own. Re: Provincial Homes 531Sep 06, 2017 1:23 pm Hi Everyone how are your builds going? An Update on our timeline so far: 4 March: Signed Tender and paid deposit 16 March: Colour Pack Received 19 April: Land Registers 10 May: Settlement 19 June: Signed Contracts 29 June: Submision to CDC 17 August: CDC Approved 16 August: Variations from Colour selections finalised and signed 24 August: Final contract Variation signed & Returned Have not received final plans yet but the clock has started ticking for them to start. A few things to note: - After registration I went and signed the tender with George and then late May was emailed to sign them again. I think the originals went walkabouts and we lost a few weeks. - Contract signing lost another 2 weeks due to availability of Provincial and us not lining up. - Colours really killed us. We knew what we wanted but in this day and age noone wants to even give ball park figures. Our ceasarstone selection was going to be another $17k extra and the cupboards we wanted were too dark and they straight up refused. Since we have a small house the Kitchen is the center of it all and we wanted to make it amazing. Not $17k extra amazing. We had to invert our colours to cheaper ceasarstone colours (From a white "Alpine Mist" bench top to "sleek concrete") which meant we had to rethink everything. All the planning and research we did was turned on its head because no one wanted to give us a ballpark price on anything. Not provincials issue - Was more frustrated at the direct questions to ceasarstone being unanswered. Luckily for us Vicky was about to go on Maternity leave so we could atleast do that with her. Mei is the replacement and it was her first day with provincial - Thank god we didnt have it with her only. We needed the no bs answers Vicky gave us that Mei did not know the answers to. - Electricals were good. The upgrade package really covered us for everything (single story 24 sq house) except for outside lights. The cost of the outside lights is way over the top but end result was a small vari. - Build time calculation is really unfair. They sell the $500 p/w rental guarentee if they go over time but I dont know how they could. We are doing the air con, tile and carpet outside the contract and have been given a 30 week build time. Ontop of this at the contract signing stage they changed the xmas shutdown from 3 to 5 weeks. I work in the industry and 5 weeks is completely rubbish. We were told they wont sign the contract unless its 5 weeks. Then when I asked about the extension of time for rain days they mentioned if they are at the end of the build time they use BOM radar to look at all the days there was rain and add that on. Again total rubbish since thats not how rain days work in the industry. An EOT should be issued every day rain holds up construction - not every day it rains irrespective of it holding up construction. In total they will probably get about 40 weeks to build a single storey. They might as well make it a $5,000 p/w guarentee. All in all we lost probably a month in time for silly things. The constant signing of the same thing gets a little old. (Tender has been signed like 4 times over now). The contract is very much in their favor. Outside of this the staff are great. Re: Provincial Homes 532Sep 06, 2017 1:48 pm Hi Teemo Don't complain! It sounds like you have the express package. Our land registered mid 2016 and as of yesterday have a Port-a-Loo. We should have our survey and site scrap next week or sometime in the near future. I am sure in time we will look back and tell everyone how happy we where to build! I did say in time! Re: Provincial Homes 533Sep 06, 2017 2:50 pm Yea to be fair they have always seemed to be making progress and I have made it a point to get them what they needed within 1 day of asking. Your situation is just so unlucky. The whole process has so many independent parts working and if one of them falls behind it can have a domino effect on the whole process. Im surprised the survey has been left till now though... When did you sign your final variations? Re: Provincial Homes 534Sep 07, 2017 3:55 pm Teemo Hi Everyone how are your builds going? An Update on our timeline so far: 4 March: Signed Tender and paid deposit 16 March: Colour Pack Received 19 April: Land Registers 10 May: Settlement 19 June: Signed Contracts 29 June: Submision to CDC 17 August: CDC Approved 16 August: Variations from Colour selections finalised and signed 24 August: Final contract Variation signed & Returned Have not received final plans yet but the clock has started ticking for them to start. A few things to note: - After registration I went and signed the tender with George and then late May was emailed to sign them again. I think the originals went walkabouts and we lost a few weeks. - Contract signing lost another 2 weeks due to availability of Provincial and us not lining up. - Colours really killed us. We knew what we wanted but in this day and age noone wants to even give ball park figures. Our ceasarstone selection was going to be another $17k extra and the cupboards we wanted were too dark and they straight up refused. Since we have a small house the Kitchen is the center of it all and we wanted to make it amazing. Not $17k extra amazing. We had to invert our colours to cheaper ceasarstone colours (From a white "Alpine Mist" bench top to "sleek concrete") which meant we had to rethink everything. All the planning and research we did was turned on its head because no one wanted to give us a ballpark price on anything. Not provincials issue - Was more frustrated at the direct questions to ceasarstone being unanswered. Luckily for us Vicky was about to go on Maternity leave so we could atleast do that with her. Mei is the replacement and it was her first day with provincial - Thank god we didnt have it with her only. We needed the no bs answers Vicky gave us that Mei did not know the answers to. - Electricals were good. The upgrade package really covered us for everything (single story 24 sq house) except for outside lights. The cost of the outside lights is way over the top but end result was a small vari. - Build time calculation is really unfair. They sell the $500 p/w rental guarentee if they go over time but I dont know how they could. We are doing the air con, tile and carpet outside the contract and have been given a 30 week build time. Ontop of this at the contract signing stage they changed the xmas shutdown from 3 to 5 weeks. I work in the industry and 5 weeks is completely rubbish. We were told they wont sign the contract unless its 5 weeks. Then when I asked about the extension of time for rain days they mentioned if they are at the end of the build time they use BOM radar to look at all the days there was rain and add that on. Again total rubbish since thats not how rain days work in the industry. An EOT should be issued every day rain holds up construction - not every day it rains irrespective of it holding up construction. In total they will probably get about 40 weeks to build a single storey. They might as well make it a $5,000 p/w guarentee. All in all we lost probably a month in time for silly things. The constant signing of the same thing gets a little old. (Tender has been signed like 4 times over now). The contract is very much in their favor. Outside of this the staff are great. Hi Teemo, Seems your land registration and home construction process is moving faster. But for me, its just a disaster. For us it took almost 5 months to complete the plan stage and CDC approval. CDC approval took almost 2 months. Provincial homes were not prepared with the engineering design. They entered to site for excavation 1.5 months back. Still no sign of slabs and piers. I was informed, it may take another 1 month for them to do slabs. 100% sure, they wont be able to build home in due time frame.But as like yours, they said 5 weeks of holiday break to us too. We were the first to settle the registered land in our block. But by the way how things are progressing, we will be last completing the build of home. All together we are looking 1.7 years to complete a double storey home of 30sq without flooring(iam getting it done separatly) I really should have consulted few guys who already built home with provincial homes. But a lesson learnt. Never, never Provinical homes. Re: Provincial Homes 535Sep 07, 2017 3:58 pm Duke145 Hi Teemo Don't complain! It sounds like you have the express package. Our land registered mid 2016 and as of yesterday have a Port-a-Loo. We should have our survey and site scrap next week or sometime in the near future. I am sure in time we will look back and tell everyone how happy we where to build! I did say in time! Mate. Lets c.. Re: Provincial Homes 537Sep 07, 2017 4:22 pm Jesus that is scary Taurus. 2.5 months from entering site to slab is rubbish... Duke good to hear yours is kicking off. To be honest I looked on this forum before signing and there werent too many complaints with time but sounds like lately they are behind schedule... Ill just have to see how it all plays out. Re: Provincial Homes 539Sep 15, 2017 2:04 pm tauruschap Hi Teemo, Seems your land registration and home construction process is moving faster. But for me, its just a disaster. For us it took almost 5 months to complete the plan stage and CDC approval. CDC approval took almost 2 months. Provincial homes were not prepared with the engineering design. They entered to site for excavation 1.5 months back. Still no sign of slabs and piers. I was informed, it may take another 1 month for them to do slabs. 100% sure, they wont be able to build home in due time frame.But as like yours, they said 5 weeks of holiday break to us too. We were the first to settle the registered land in our block. But by the way how things are progressing, we will be last completing the build of home. All together we are looking 1.7 years to complete a double storey home of 30sq without flooring(iam getting it done separatly) I really should have consulted few guys who already built home with provincial homes. But a lesson learnt. Never, never Provinical homes. Looks like another few weeks wasted for me. I was told after signing final variations they would be good to start in 3-4 weeks. My interpretation of the contract was exactly this also. I called them after 2 weeks to double check we are all systems go and I couldn't get through to anyone but was told "If they need anything they will call me". Should have pushed to get through to someone since 3.5 weeks after signing the final variations I got an email with the final plans and asking how my electrical appointment is going. Clipsal never sent it through and they only raised it now. So apparently they have 4 weeks from now to start on site. For you though I would pay close attention to what they do with Rain days. I double checked the HIA contract and they MUST contact you within 10 days of being aware of the delay to request an extension of time. I know if they go overtime on mine ill be telling them to get stuffed if they just calculate rain days at the end of the contracted time frame. Also I did have a look on this forum before deciding to go with them and from what I saw most were good stories. Unfortunately in the last 2 months it seems to be nothing but bad stories. Re: Provincial Homes 540Sep 15, 2017 2:14 pm I too have been told that they are running behind and the piers will be a few weeks away. We were one of the first to register in our sub division and we know have several neighbors who have moved in and we don't even have a slab. We were warned by a couple of other builders but thought they were just making up stories to get the business. should have listened! The Dulux colour consultants are awesome. If you show them the photos they should be able to figure it out for you straight away 1 1618 Ask for references and speak to them. If they are defensive or try to avoid the request, walk. 1 74716 I would never build with Fowler homes. I built with them in 2021 and till date maintenance issues are pending. All their existing trades and businesses don't work with… 14 105599 |