Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Apr 29, 2009 12:41 am We got our soil test report from the builder today, our tender is next week. Some extract from our soil test below. Looks like we could be in for a site cost shock. Can any one give us an indication of what a Henley slab type no 4 cost? Thanks self::bbcode_second_pass_code_cb Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 2Apr 29, 2009 9:36 am depending on the size of your house. H class can be anywhere from 3000-5000 more than the standard S class allowance. As for the P classification they have listed.............. was the fill not compacted properly by the developer?? Did you get any sort of compaction report from them. This could def cost you a few thousand more!!! If a) they have to use specialised piering and footing or b) have to cut and refill according to regulations that will allow H class. Living in Caloundra Thread****** Lovin my house all finished!!! Now tackling the HUGE task of the Garden- viewtopic.php?f=31&t=14782 Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 4Apr 29, 2009 9:54 am you will probably have to wait for the full engineering report to know about the piering costs as it will depend on how many you need. 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 5Apr 29, 2009 1:18 pm As you stated, the site is P, but your soil is H. Any site that has anything unusual will be classified P, but that doesn't necessarily impact on your slab design, although it can. My site is classified P because we have trees (that is considered unusual) but my soil is M and therefor the slab is designed and engineered to an M classification. Because you have fill, your site has been classified P, but from reading what they have written, it looks like a H slab will be the go. No idea about the Henley Type no 4 slab though. As Lisanne said though, if you need piering that will add to the costs. But, if there isn't cut and fill and no piering required, I'd say it would be a straight forward H class slab from what's written. It really is one of those wait and see things though, because there are so many variables that can alter the slab design and costs. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 6May 03, 2009 1:37 pm Not sure about Henley but we recently got our soil tests back from our builder. They have classified our site as Class P and the slab as Class H. My partner and I have sat down and read all the way through the contract and we noticed in the actual engineering report it says we are class P for site but class M for slab. I'm not sure if there is any reason the builder has changed us to H maybe to get more money as they include Class M as their standard inclusion. So be careful and read your soil report. Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 8May 04, 2009 3:20 pm We have now pointed this out to our builder and they are waiting for a call back from the engineering company. Its a bit unprofessional that we picked up on this and not them. I still hope they aren't trying to rip us off. We have decided will may go through this builder but atm we are just getting a price from another builder. Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 9May 04, 2009 4:23 pm Focus06 Not sure about Henley but we recently got our soil tests back from our builder. They have classified our site as Class P and the slab as Class H. My partner and I have sat down and read all the way through the contract and we noticed in the actual engineering report it says we are class P for site but class M for slab. I'm not sure if there is any reason the builder has changed us to H maybe to get more money as they include Class M as their standard inclusion. So be careful and read your soil report. Well we got the call back from the builder and lucky we were on there case about the above. They called up the engineering company and spoke with them and the soil tests were correct. It was the ESTIMATOR that got it wrong!!! Just imagine if we didn't say anything they would of continued to charge us the full amount. So hopefully the price comes down a little as they include class M as standard. Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 11May 04, 2009 6:09 pm fruitty A Henley Type No 4 slab with fully suspended slab panel designed by a fully qualify engineer is recommended for this site. This is essentially a meaningless statement from your builder - no doubt intended to confuse buyers that "their" slab is different to another builders which is complete bollocks - they need to specify the slab class, and as mentioned before site and slab classifications can be different. mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 12May 05, 2009 8:23 pm fruitty Looks like our block will need a compaction report (another test $$$) as the land was released some time ago (6 yrs) and the developer peet don't keep those report any more Dont the devolpers get outsiders to do the compaction reports. Ask the developer which company did the tests to start with, and go to that compant directly. They should still have the details. Living in Caloundra Thread****** Lovin my house all finished!!! Now tackling the HUGE task of the Garden- viewtopic.php?f=31&t=14782 Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 13May 05, 2009 8:54 pm Thank you for the suggestion. It probably too late now as the builder would have booked it already. Maybe I will still try to get it to compare, hope there is no (significant) cost to obtain it. Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 14May 08, 2009 10:02 am Hi fruitty, Our block came back exactly the same as yours, P class soil due to some fill, and H class slab. Without teh compaction report, we'd have to pay $27k extra to cover the cost of extra work!! Thanks to the compaction report --I forgot to hand it to the builder when i signed up with them--, now it only costs me $4.7k extra for all extra concrete and piers... So if you can, try to get the report from the company who did the compaction for Peet 6 yrs ago regardless whether they've booked in a new soil test for you or not. Soil test doesn't equal to a compaction report. Good luck! Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 15May 08, 2009 10:12 am popcorn-chicken Hi fruitty, Our block came back exactly the same as yours, P class soil due to some fill, and H class slab. Without teh compaction report, we'd have to pay $27k extra to cover the cost of extra work!! We have been quoted exactly the same amount $27k the tender guy did say that it highly unlikely this will happen as our next door neighbor (also build with Henley 6yrs ago) had the same problem but got reclassify. Does anyone know which department at PEET I should talk to to not get the run around . Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 16May 08, 2009 10:13 am Would just like to ask what a compaction report is? We are in the same situation P class site and H class soil with fill to the rear of the block. Where can i obtain it from should it be in my land contract? Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 17May 08, 2009 10:16 am sparkle Would just like to ask what a compaction report is? We are in the same situation P class site and H class soil with fill to the rear of the block. Where can i obtain it from should it be in my land contract? Soil compaction report basically shows how much soil they add to your block to make it level. It should be in your contract / sales documentation. If not you need to contact your land develper and hope they haven't bin it like in our case. Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 18May 08, 2009 12:39 pm Fruity The best people to ask are Henley. You have a right to know this. I had a full list of site costs and slab upgrades costs before I looked at the companies display homes. What is a "Henley No 4 ". You also need to know the depths of fill that they found. Also if it’s natural or was brought in by the developer. The land was second hand, some times a pre purchase soil test is worth the consideration. To do list makes a good point. IMPO this slab and soil testing & contour survey are a cost shift for most building companies. I shot my own levels so I could ague if they told me I needed X for cut & fill. I also happened to find the soil clarification for next door & 3 doors down. Go to your block and check the bore holes and drop a tape down them to see the depth then check it against the bore log. If you’re not happy you can get an independent report to confirm it. There are many rasions why a H can need a P slab. Their telling you its fill so you can check this out. Also did you check with the developer was the block fill at development stage, some times it’s on the plan of sub. I think they have to show it if it’s more than X amount and it is known to them. Anyway, get on Henley and ask What, When, Why & HOW MUCH. All the best. KW.......... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 19May 08, 2009 9:07 pm I called the developer today to try and find out who did the soil test but they person in charge of it is not in. Will have to call back on Monday. Having the old report will be handy as I can compare it with the new test. Wish I knew all these things prior to purchase Re: P class site and H class soil site cost? 20Nov 19, 2009 4:49 pm My soil test has also revealed a "P" Site classification. The report indicates fill of upto 500mm. It seems PEET has not compacted my block of land as they only compact if fill exceeds 300mm. Looks like they have missed out my block! Looks like I am in for a serious shock... Do I have any options? I am not sure whether Perth has its own way of doing things in regards to this. Most of Perth has class A (sandy soil), except for some areas near rivers or hills. 2 13063 We were lucky in that our old house was so small (86 square metres) compared to the new house, they were able to take enough readings around the old backyard house before… 8 37085 PM me your email. I have a build excavation calculator you can use based on your plans to double check what your builder is telling you. Cheers Simeon 1 10207 |