Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Apr 15, 2009 3:13 pm Hi there, I'm wondering how long it usually takes to draw a house plan? I have paid an architect to do the drawing for me, but it is almost 4 months and yet he still hasn't finished it. Does it usually take this long? I really want him to do the job faster but he never gives me the work on the day he promised and always tell me that he has other works to do. Is this usually what happens? If not, is there any way I can make him work faster? Thanks for replying. Re: House Plan 2Apr 15, 2009 3:27 pm That seems like a awfully long time. I don't have an answer for you as our plans were drawn up through the builder and we only had a few modifications to their standard plan. I hope you get it done soon though. Blog: http://bluemistkids.blogspot.com "Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, and professionals built the Titanic." Re: House Plan 3Apr 15, 2009 3:36 pm 4 months seems incredibly long to me. When we went down the renovation path the first set of drawings from the draftie (not architect) took about 3 weeks to do, and they were quite complex. The whole process with revisions, engineers details etc took about 4 months I think. Re: House Plan 4Apr 15, 2009 3:42 pm Seems a long time to me too. Here's hoping for some progress soon Re: House Plan 5Apr 15, 2009 8:20 pm 4 months! Thats crazy.. Have you paid them anything yet? I'll have our first plan on Friday and we saw the architect yesterday.. full drawings a week after that.. If you havent parted with any $$ i'd consider looking around.. or at least tell the architect that if they want your $$ then they need to provide a design plan by x date or you're walking.. -------------------------------------------------------- Building in Highlands Craigieburn Status: Building the Laundryless 25.5: Slab Complete Re: House Plan 6Apr 18, 2009 9:05 pm I'll have our first plan on Friday and we saw the architect yesterday.. full drawings a week after that.. In regards to to this, when did you hire your architect. If your architect can complete full plans in one week they are either the most competent / skilled architect in the world or your brief is the most simplest straight forward design ever encountered. In the real world by the time you have sketched what you want and the architect does there interpretation and then you to and fro for awhile to get it perfect it will take some time. However if you have shom them what you want and said just draw it to the final stage, then it has taken far to long. However if the person you hired tells you something and then doesn't deliever what they promise, I think maybe the architect is either incompetant or they may be really busy. At the end of the day you pay for a service and if the service isn't up to scratch like it sounds it isn't go elsewhere. Re: House Plan 7Apr 18, 2009 9:31 pm hunts01 If your architect can complete full plans in one week they are either the most competent / skilled architect in the world or your brief is the most simplest straight forward design ever encountered. Hmmm Frank Loyd Wright did the plans for "Falling Water" in just a couple of hours when he heard the client was on his way to see them. If you don't know what I'm on about, do yourself a favour and google it. Anyone that likes houses/architecture etc. should be familiar with FLW's work. It's as good as it gets IMHO Cheers zeke Re: House Plan 8Apr 18, 2009 10:19 pm I did a bit of research and I will quote if you like. In November 1934, Wright visited Bear Run. He asked for a survey of the area around the waterfall, which he received in March 1935. This survey was prepared by Fayette Engineering Company of Uniontown, Pennsylvania and included all of the boulders, trees and topography. It took 9 months for his ideas for the site to crystallize into a design which was quickly sketched up by Wright in time for a visit by Kaufmann to Taliesin in September 1935.[7][8] It was then that Kaufmann first became aware that Wright’s design was for the house to be built above the falls,[9] rather than below the falls as he had expected.[10] [edit] Design and construction The structural design for Fallingwater was undertaken by Wright in association with Mendel Glickman and William Wesley Peters who had been responsible for the design of the revolutionary columns which were a feature of Wright’s design for the Johnson Wax Headquarters. Preliminary plans were issued to Kaufmann for approval on October 15, 1935,[11] after which Wright made a further visit to the site and provided a cost estimate to his client. In December 1935 an old rock quarry was opened to the west of the water to provide the stones needed for the house’s walls. Wright only made periodic visits to the site during construction, instead assigning Robert Mosher who was one of his apprentices as his permanent on-site representative.[11] The final working drawings were issued by Wright in March 1936 with work beginning on the bridge and the main house in April 1936. The construction was plagued by conflicts between Wright, Kaufmann and the construction contractor. The view of the building is such that the falls can be heard when inside the building, but the falls are visible only when standing on the balcony on the topmost floor. This type of geometrical architecture mystery has even puzzled the architect Wright himself. Kaufmann had Wright’s design reviewed by a firm of consulting engineers as he doubted whether Wright had sufficient experience with using reinforced concrete. Upon receiving their report Wright took offense and immediately requested Kaufmann to return his drawings and indicated he was withdrawing from the project. Kaufmann apologized and the engineer’s report was subsequently buried within a stone wall of the house.[11] After a visit to the site, Wright in June 1936 rejected the concrete work for the bridge, which had to be rebuilt. FallingwaterFor the cantilevered floors Wright and his team used integral upside-down beams with the flat slab on the bottom forming the ceiling of the space below. The contractor, Walter Hall, who was also an engineer, produced independent computations and argued for increasing the reinforcement in the first floor’s slab. Wright rebuffed the contractor. While some sources state that it was the contractor who quietly doubled the amount of reinforcement,[12] according to others,[11] it was at Kaufmann’s request that his consulting engineers redrew Wright’s reinforcing drawings and doubled the amount of steel specified by Wright. This additional steel not only added weight to the slab but was set so close together that the concrete often could not properly fill in between the steel, which weakened the slab. In addition, the contractor did not build in a slight upward incline in the formwork for the cantilever to compensate for the settling and deflection of the cantilever once the concrete had cured and the formwork was removed. As a result, the cantilever developed a noticeable sag. Upon learning of this, Wright temporarily replaced Mosher with Edgar Tafel.[13] The consulting engineers with Kaufmann’s approval arranged for the contractor to install a supporting wall under the main supporting beam for the west terrace. When Wright discovered it on a site visit he had Mosher discreetly remove the top course of stones. When Kaufmann later confessed to what had been done, Wright showed him what Mosher had done and pointed out that the cantilever had held up for the past month under test loads without the wall’s support.[14] In October 1937 the main house was completed. Even taking out any building issues that may have occured it still took Wright 6 months to issue the final working drawings. By 'plans' i think you mean sketchs. I am sure most architects could sketch up some 'plans' as you call them in a few hours. He may have sketched up a design, but I am sure that design that you quoted took a couple of hours didn't take into account footing design / every single measurement for each wall entry / window and door schedule / engineering / etc etc etc. If you do know someone that is so efficient maybe you should post there details so that people like empty 123 and myself who are in need can utilise the services. i thought the flipped plan initially but bec i want narrow pathway from entry to dining (dont like bend), also cannot fit the… 7 17286 5 10494 Hi, Seeking volume or semi-custom builder in victoria(east), which have existing double story wide floor plans. Seeking 18-20m wide homes with depth of 12-15m long. Or… 0 25171 |