Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Neigbour Objection 21Apr 04, 2009 8:00 am how awful for you i am so glad we are on 5 acres and no neighbours to complain about anthing finished building 40 square home on 5 acres with perry homes.working on the landscaping just finished pool deck with ://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=2217 Re: Neigbour Objection 22Apr 04, 2009 8:14 am buildingadreamhome This is exactly why I felt so angry. We did go out of our way. Did more than what was necessary. They were just looking for amunition to put in their objection. Very ** and underhanded. Anyway we've always been very friendly with them. Not close but still always happy to have a chat over the fence or out the front. But not now.... gweluphome - it just seems to be so unfair how a neighbour thinks they can dictate what they want to you and think they can get it. That sounds terrible!!!! I'm so sorry to hear that, I hope you are able to get the plans through without all those ridiculous changes. Some neighbours are just SO difficult, and make it SO hard for you to live your own life. How naughty of them to be nice to you so they can see your plans, and then use it to FULLY reject your submission! ggrr Let us know you you go. Idiots are fun, that's why there is one in every village! - Dr. House - Re: Neigbour Objection 23Apr 04, 2009 8:50 am That's awful, what a ** person she is. I think you were really kind to do what you did, unfortunately she just wanted information. I wouldn't be happy about having to obscure my lounge windows, surely if you are at the bottom of a sloping block you would have to accept some overlooking. Well it's her loss. Now what you need to do once you get that great house of yours is invite the other (much nicer) neighbours around for a BBQ in your backyard and she can watch from her window. Re: Neigbour Objection 24Apr 04, 2009 9:02 am I know all about that too!! We went out of way to introduce ourselves to our neighbour when we bought the property and to tell him our plans and the next minute he turns around and complains about us building our shed and dumping rubbish, he put there in the first place, on the border of our properties to remove later. But guess what he's now SELLING and am totally over the moon. All the best with your neighbour, i know it's pretty tough and the worst thing when your so excited about building to feel intimidated. Building the Brampton 195 with Coral Homes Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 25Apr 07, 2009 7:51 am So my husband and I went to council yesterday to speak to our assessment officer. We wanted to look at the 2 objection letters our neighbour sent and see if we had a chance of a right of reply. We took photos of our existing privacy screen and backyard to show how little we can see into our neighbours yard and a how little sun we get in most of the yard because of their tree, hence the need for our courtyard area near the fence which they want the windows and doors obscured that lead out to that area. Anyway the guy was great. We went through every point regarding every window and door. Showed him our photos (which he kept). ALSO the big ** thing our neighbours did....with their objection letter they attached pics from about 8 months ago from when there was no privacy screen up (we had just removed a garage that was blocking the view)... It was like they were doctoring the evidence to be in their favour!! Nasties!! He even remembered their being a screen there from our demolition DA so he's well aware. Anyway the council guy is going to come out this week because the wife neighbour wants to speak to him so he'll hopefully make his assessment then and realise how unreasonable and irrational they are. I'm pretty sure we won't have to obscure down stairs but even if we have to do upstairs I feel so much better we got a chance to show him everything with OUR point of view. Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 26Apr 07, 2009 9:23 am That seems like very positive news so far Badh, the council guy sounds very reasonable. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall when he tells them how unreasonable they have been. Great news, can't wait for the next installment which should be even better news. Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 27Apr 07, 2009 12:21 pm Good on you ! I am glad the council is being sound and reasonable about this whole thing. Land Settled 27/04/09. Site Started 30/4/09. Slab poured 21/5/09. Frame up 27/5/09. Building thread : viewtopic.php?f=31&t=15699 Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 28Apr 07, 2009 12:24 pm I had no idea the neighbour in any council could complain about where your windows are? All I ever showed my neighbour was how close it would be to the boundry and thats it? How come councils are able to dictate windows etc? At least it sounds like a better outcome contacting the actual person who does your DA! Good stuff! Our Blog! http://cityplantation.blogspot.com | Building the Havana 485 with Plantation Homes (Henley) Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 29Apr 07, 2009 1:29 pm Gester I had no idea the neighbour in any council could complain about where your windows are? All I ever showed my neighbour was how close it would be to the boundry and thats it? How come councils are able to dictate windows etc? At least it sounds like a better outcome contacting the actual person who does your DA! Good stuff! This is standard practice in my council and I assume in all councils in NSW for the DA process. All my neighbours who were notified of the build - 2 to the left, 2 to the right, 4 across the road and 4 behind us were given all 4 elevations of our house (front back left right) and our two next door neighbours also had their houses in relation to our new house on the elevations - this way they could see exactly where windows and doors are and how they impact on them. We were just nice enough to show our neighbours our entire floor plan, landscape plan etc..... big mistake. The council can if they like decide whether a window/door needs to be moved or obscured. Fingers crossed we won't have to do any of it as we love love love our plan! Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 30Apr 07, 2009 1:57 pm sounds like the council guy is a lot more reasonable than your neighbours BADH. Especially with the old photos trick, that's really hopefully your neighbours are in full-on weirdo mode when he comes to visit them this week "Your emotions are the slaves to your thoughts, and you are the slave to your emotions." — Elizabeth Gilbert Living in our new house. Currently scaping the land. Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 31Apr 07, 2009 3:10 pm i can see both sides of the arguement. It's quite possible that your neighbours have lived there for some time with a single story house next door and now they're being confronted with a second story next door and that makes people nervous. nobody likes to have their neighbours looking into the house or yard, yes they may be difficult people but they're not weird, most people would react that way especially if they like their privacy and it sounds like there is also a significant drop in levels between the two blocks as well which just makes the situation worse. When they built a two story across the road from us, the neighbour next to them insisted there were no windows on that side of the house overlooking their yard and as it was a developer building, they agreed to use a plan that didnt include an upper story windows on that side so they were able to get under way with construction pretty quickly. if it were me, i would go across to their house and look from there, you'll get a whole different perspective from their side of the fence and then try and come up with some solutions. it might mean changing locations of windows or the floor plan but your neighbours do have a right to privacy and "enjoyment of their property" which is how my council words it. we had a much lesser privacy issue with our back fence when we did some landscaping. our neighbours at the back are much lower than us, and our floor height is at about their gutter height so when we retained and got rid of the slope in our backyard the back fence height ended up rediculously low. i was looking right at my neighbours when they were in their yards and i was in the back room which is full length windows and the back fence was only at about chest height on our side when you were walking by it no one complained but we decided to make some alterations because it was awkward for us and i'm pretty sure it was awkward for them too. Dont get offside with your neighbours and be prepared to compromise because you could be living next door to them for years. one day you might need them, e.g. a stranger might be following your child home from school and he runs to the neighbours house for protection, you lock yourself out and need to use their phone, these things happen and IMO even if you dont like your neighbours it's a good idea to stay on good terms with them. Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 32Apr 07, 2009 3:16 pm Do you HAVE to give even the neighbours across the road a copy of your plans? It was optional for us to even consult our left or right neighbours - even when getting a boundry relaxation. It just makes the DA easier and quicker. I did ask one neighbour though for a signed page which just had our block siting on it. But nothing to the extent that it seems that you had to go through! I really feel your pain Our Blog! http://cityplantation.blogspot.com | Building the Havana 485 with Plantation Homes (Henley) Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 33Apr 07, 2009 3:43 pm We didn't have to let our next door neighbours see our plans. We did it because we are friendly and have been neighbours for over 5 years. Also we just went through exactly the same thing as them because our neighbours on our other side just completed their 2 storey house about 8 months ago and yes they are higher than us because of the nature of the street. The difference was that we aren't unreasonable and irrational and didn't complain. It's called progress and adds value to the street. Our complaining neighbours want to live in a fortress which isn't going to happen in my area! It is virtually impossible to have a plan that suits my long narrow block with windows not on that wall. I think it's unreasonable to expect that changes don't happen with your neighbours property. You can't honestly believe that when you purchase a property that nothing will happen on either side of you. Especially when it's a very old suburb with VERY old houses all around you such as mine. Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 34Apr 07, 2009 4:09 pm ok, it's progress but most councils do have laws that cover these things and in an older suburb where the houses were single story and redevelopment is happening to two story houses this issue comes up a lot because when someone buys a house they dont necessarily expect that the block next door will be redeveloped, zonings change all the time so your neighbours may have lived there since before rezoning etc. The thing is dont let it get personal, stay calm and work through it rationally, look at it for what it is, two neighbours who both want their needs met, you want your house, they want their privacy and it may mean some compromise that both neighbours can live with, letting it get personal wont achieve anything. if their is a substancial difference in level between the blocks, have you considered offering to build a retaining wall on your neighbours side so that the fence could be re-installed higher? it might not solve all of the issues but it could solve some of them and may help to raise the level of any screening. Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 35Apr 08, 2009 12:25 pm Yeah , friends of ours told and showed neighbours prior to council submission. Essentially did almost everything requested prior to lodgement . Then they complained at DA numerous other things , took over 2 years and court to settle , they were told dont make alterations to plan prior to lodgement in future as council didnt realise the degree of changes prior to lodgement already and therefore were relatively unsympathetic to the owners tending to favour the neighbours Mike 2/3 of the way thru the build Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 7/4 36Apr 08, 2009 12:29 pm Im glad the person at the council was much more reasonable. Hopefully your neighbours wont continue to cause problems after the build. Our current neighbours are just evil! Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 23/4 DA Approved!!!! 37Apr 23, 2009 7:19 pm Yes it's true!!! Our DA has been approved. I just logged onto our council website as I do about a hundred times a day and there it was APP BY DELEG!!! I nearly fell off the lounge. Admittedly I don't know what, if any conditions there are but still....it only took 39 days!! We were expecting at least 2 to 3 months. Will get the gritty details tomorrow..... fingers crossed it's more in our rational favour than that of our irrational neighbours!! Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 23/4 DA Approved!!!! 38Apr 23, 2009 7:21 pm YAY!!!!! fingers crossed that they didn't listen to your neighbours!! 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 23/4 DA Approved!!!! 39Apr 23, 2009 9:50 pm lisanne YAY!!!!! fingers crossed that they didn't listen to your neighbours!! Thanks Lisanne Re: Neigbour Objection - Update 23/4 DA Approved!!!! 40Apr 23, 2009 10:19 pm Hurray! Congratulations BADH. That's fantastic news. You're on your way!! Masterton Santorini Grande 23/01/09 First Tender 17/11/09 Contract signed 25/01/10 Slab 27/03/10 Frame 7/5/10 Bricks 1/07/10 Roof 9/7/10 Lock up 24/8/10 PCI 16/09/2010 KEYS! viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16418 Hi, Appreciate any recommendations for town planners or advisors who can help assist to assess and draft an objection to a neighbour’s development in Northern Beaches.… 0 3631 If your patio is going to be 35 sqm then that's going to need Council Approval. The fact that they previously approved your 25sqm patio will be irelevant 1 5505 |