Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Mar 26, 2009 9:18 pm Hi
I'm looking for some assistance in solving a dilemma. Below is the "short version" which will have to suffice until I find some time to suss out posting pics on this forum. I know....it's about time I did We have a very big kitchen/meals/family/pool room that is about 13 metres long and 6.8 metres wide except for a stereo alcove in the middle that extends the width to 7.5 metres. The original plan was to tile just the kitchen/meals area and carpet the rest. However we have been convinced this would not work as it would leave us with carpet abutting one short side of the island bench. Unfortunately it is not feasible to simply extend the tiles into the family room as this has a vaulted ceiling and the alcove at one end and would look unbalanced. The obvious answer is to tile the whole area and use rugs. However we love carpet. Another option has been suggested.....extend the tiling which is 600x6000 porcelain as a border around the family/pool room areas and have inset or inlaid carpet. This sounds pretty exciting but a bit scary as it's "different" Until I post a plan and some pics it's probably a bit hard to understand what I'm on about. However, a couple of specific questions are: 1. Does anyone know of any links to good piccies of inlaid carpet with a tiled border? 2. Would a tiler typically cut 45mm off all the tiles so that a full tile can extend into the doorways and meet the carpet in the adjoining rooms under the doors? the centre of doors or would they leave the tiles whole (600mm) and cut 45mm strips of tile to extend the tiling into the doorways by half a wall width? Any opinions/assistance genuinely appreciated. I'll really try hard to find time tomorrow to work out how to post pics. Cheers zeke Re: Carpet inlay 2Mar 27, 2009 10:41 am Hi, we are considering a carpet inlay aswell. I have a couple of photos that may be of use for you. I think having a bordered edge looks really good. We once did a carpet inlay with wooden floors, and had a darker timber on the outside edge. It works out that you save a bit of money too .. especially if you intended to buy a big rug. You don't have to pay for the metreage underneath to be tiled, or wood. You can get some great "shag" type carpets now on the roll ... so they actually look like rugs. Good luck. Couple of pics for you Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Carpet inlay 3Mar 27, 2009 11:13 am Hi, I can't give any links or pictures as advice but just wanted to comment on joins between carpet and tiles. The pictures of the border that 'davden' put up look great. I have seen alot of joins where the carpet just butts up to tiles with just some sort of metal strip between the two. The border in the pictures above looks like it sits over the top of the carpet and that the carpet could actually go as far as the tiles. The problem I have seen where they just butt up together is that the carpet after a few years seems to gradually start pulling away from the join. The few houses where I have seen this happen all have kids and I wonder whether it is the hard time the joins get when kids are riding or pushing large toys across the joins and they get a little bit stuck going from one surface to another. The border style above looks like it could protect the very edge of the carpet as it is well and truly under the border and having less pressure put on it. Then again I could be wrong and the edge of the carpet is just butted up to the border. Just thought I should raise the issue as you could have more exposed edge than normal to worry about. Look forward to seeing your pics. Re: Carpet inlay 4Mar 27, 2009 11:38 am Hi, good point "klscomps". We didn't have that problem when we did it before, the inlay was in our main living area and I had 2 young children at the time, but can see how it may happen. Do you think it is down to the installation? I have done a close up of the inlay to see exactly how it's fitted. Maybe a carpet layer/tiler could shed some light on how it should be installed to alleviate the possibility of the carpet breaking away. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Carpet inlay 5Mar 27, 2009 12:31 pm Thanks for the replies, guys and the great pics Davden. Our tiler said he has done joins for several builders without the aluminum strips to get a cleaner look. However, the carpet salesguy was very skeptical about this and the kitchen foreman who happened to be onsite when we were discussing the options said he thought the potential for tile damage would sway him away from this option. I suspect we will play it safe and include the strips....but nothing has been decided for sure yet. Re the pics, I know the previous forum software required an external host for photos, but the current software invites file attachments. Can anyone advise whether this includes photos, how big they can be etc? Cheers zeke Re: Carpet inlay 6Mar 27, 2009 4:43 pm OK here goes trying to post some photos/plans First is a view of the room in question: [img]<img%20src="http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8062/dsc0903.jpg"%20alt="Image%20Hosted%20by%20ImageShack.us"/>[/img] Re: Carpet inlay 7Mar 27, 2009 4:48 pm Hmmm.....that went well, didn't it? The first time I tried I was told the image was greater than 600 pixels high (but it was less than 600 pixels wide) So I tried a landscape pic and was told that the dimensions of the pic couldn't be determined (BTW it had been resized to 800X600) Well, back to the drawing board...... Re: Carpet inlay 9Mar 27, 2009 6:56 pm Hope this makes sense of my original post. The kitchen/family/billiard is one big room. The red outline shows the area to be inlaid with carpet. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ This is the carpet and tiles in different lights: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ And here are a few more shots of the room: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ As I said in the first post, I'd be extremely grateful for any info or opinions on inlaying carpet within a tiled border. Cheers zeke Re: Carpet inlay 10Mar 27, 2009 7:43 pm We've just twigged to the idea that the tiled border around the brown "streaky" carpet might just echo the metallic 2-pac borders around the dark veneer in the kitchen and look a bit nice. But we're not really sure if this will look clever or too contrived Any opinions welcome. Cheers zeke Re: Carpet inlay 11Mar 27, 2009 10:31 pm Hi Zeke, looking at the plan you posted the only thing I can see that might look odd is that when you come out from the corridor where bed 3 etc. is, you will be stepping onto half carpet and half tiles. Perhaps you need to leave the full width of that doorway as tiles. Davden, you may be right about the workmanship causing the carpet to break away or perhaps it is the type of carpet that contributes to the problem as well. I think as long as that issue was raised prior to organising it they might be able to come up with a reasonable explanation on why it would happen. Let us know what you decide. Re: Carpet inlay - Advice needed on options + my first pics :-) 12Mar 28, 2009 10:44 am Hi klscomps Thanks for taking the time to give us your opinion. Extending the tiling a bit further from the kitchen to the other side of the passage doorway was one of the first options we considered. However, we were concerned that it would look funny with the tiling extending about a metre into the "stereo alcove" and would spoil the symmetry of the family room area that has the raked ceiling (though DW was heard to comment "but it would only be asymmetric on one side" ) Also, we think the border at 600mm might just be wide enough to function as a natural walkway from the passage door without compromising furniture placement too much. If anything we're more concerned about the effect of the carpet/tile transition in front of the double doors to the study, which will be pretty obvious on walking into the room.....but again, we think (hope) this will be OK....? Cheers zeke Thank you. Do I use timber floorboards for stairs or do people use timber treads? Or is both the same? 6 7254 Hi All, I engaged a tradie to install concrete retaining wall 600-800mm high over 32 meters in Victoria. Sleepers are 200*75*2000 mm installed over 17 steel posts. 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