Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Mar 22, 2009 11:36 pm Hi everyone I'm currently trying to put together a bathroom schedule to give to some plumbers to provide a quote for my new house and have been asked to provide details of all the actual fittings we are going to use, including specific cisterns!! We didn't realise we needed to pick the exact product we want to use (and to be honest, don't really know how to choose exactly!), we just know we'd like to have the cisterns concealed in the wall and to have the toilets wall-hung... Anyway, I'm trying to figure out who makes these things that are reliable and at the same time, value for money! The last thing we want it to have them installed in the wall and then have problems with them!! But, we also don't want to waste a lot of money if it can be done more cost-effectively! A couple of brands ive come across that do them are Geberit - who i think i've actually seen in commercial applications! - and Grohe..who i've heard of, but don't really know anything about! Does anyone have any information or advice on who might be a reliable option and/or where to buy them?? I'd really appreciate any info - we need to decide on a plumber fairly quickly, so have to try and make "the right decision" pretty soon!! Thanks heaps, Adam Re: In wall cistern systems - advice and where can I buy them? 2Mar 23, 2009 12:10 pm a friend of ours is a plumber we wanted this style initially he says they look good but are often more trouble than there worth particularly if access is difficult in case things go wrong I think there a lot more expensive as well Mike 2/3 of the way thru the build Re: In wall cistern systems - advice and where can I buy them? 3Mar 23, 2009 1:34 pm BuildingACT We didn't realise we needed to pick the exact product we want to use (and to be honest, don't really know how to choose exactly!), we just know we'd like to have the cisterns concealed in the wall and to have the toilets wall-hung... Anyway, I'm trying to figure out who makes these things that are reliable and at the same time, value for money! "Caroma" is one company that makes them. Have a look on their website: www.caroma.com.au Also have a look at "Tradelink": www.tradelink.com.au They have 7 pages of toilets. Basically wander into any shop that sells "bathroom" fittings and have a look at which models you like. Then ask who the manufacturer is. Hidden cisterns look great, but as someone said, access can be a problem if something goes wrong. You may want to have a look at some toilets that have visible cisterns, but the toilet is flush up against the wall, i.e. no S bend and no cleaning behind the toilet. Gina Re: In wall cistern systems - advice and where can I buy them? 4May 02, 2009 2:09 pm We have been thinking about installing an in-wall cistern toilet but I'm worried about access to the cistern in case something goes wrong. I thought about having a access panel, but it would have to be located on the external brick wall. My wife feels I'm being paranoid and having an access panel would be an unnecessary expense. What do you think? Re: In wall cistern systems - advice and where can I buy them? 5May 02, 2009 3:04 pm Water wafer are most common. I think they are made by Caroma. They are nuematically operated as opposed to most cisterns which are mechanical. water wafers are very thin (hence the name) so as to fit inside a stud wall. The most common problem is the air bellows on them can perforate, necesitating a replacement. the biggest downside with them and indeed most inwalll cisterns is the fact that they dont give much access if theres a need for repairs. they are a plumber's nightmare. If you put one in, just make sure the installing plumber will return to do repairs and just doesnt fit it and run away. If you put one in, make sure that its a type that you can get parts for in the future. I repaired one a few weeks ago and spent hours on the phone trying to get parts for it, for that very reason, Id recommend the Caroma water wafer. Reece, tradelink and the Coop stock them. Buy from one of them to ensure you get adaquate backup, should you need it. And do not buy a * chinese import that will work initially, but in five years time you wont be able to get parts for it heres a link to a Caroma suite http://www.caroma.com.au/products/data/pan/royale_wall/main.htm Re: In wall cistern systems - advice and where can I buy them? 6May 02, 2009 11:28 pm We've decided to go with Geberit in-wall cisterns for all our toilets. Looked into it a fair bit and spoke to a number of people (including our plumber) and we're more than happy that we won't have any major issues with maintenance/repairs. The Geberit in-wall systems have a 20yr guarantee on the cistern and all serviceable parts are accessible via a relatively small access panel on the front (where the buttons are). So yep - hopefully it all works out ok P.S. Our local plumbing specialists basically told us that the Geberit systems, made in Germany, are a much better bet than the Caroma ones, which only have something like a 12mth warranty... Cheers Adam Re: In wall cistern systems - advice and where can I buy the 8Jun 21, 2011 9:21 pm We have two and have had no problems. We've been in 18 months. Some advice, we tiled up the walls above the toilets and ours can be accessed from the other side of the wall if need be as they are not on external walls. (study is on the other side of one, dining on the other side of other.) If you are going to tile up the wall, remember to keep spare tiles in case they ever need to be pulled off to get to the cistern, or have other side access. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: In wall cistern systems - advice and where can I buy the 10Jun 21, 2011 11:49 pm We'd have to go through the plaster. But there is no stud or anything in the way. The studs are sort of on the side of cistern if that makes sense. I'll have a look tomorrow and see if I've got a pic of the cistern before the plaster went on. We could probably go from the toilet side above the tile height.... but I'd prefer they came from the other side as we have NO tiles left due to the plumbers smashing so much tiling during the build and it having to be retiled and using up all our spares. Lesson learnt I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Versaloc is a mortarless besser block system that still needs a properly engineered footing. If you just do a 400x200 footing it will fail in time. At 17m long you need it… 1 3365 wondering anyone built with omaxe homes and care to share their experiences. thanks 0 8850 Hi everyone. I am a single mother with little daughter, living in a small tourist town in WA Australia. I am thinking to install security screens to all the doors and… 0 12888 |