Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Mar 08, 2009 1:25 pm Hi all,
My in-laws have been pushing me to have a gas pipe delivered to the garage and/or the alfresco. The reason is that, when cooking something that smells (fish for instant), it won't be appropriate to do it inside the house, rather taking the whole process outside. What are your thoughts in this idea ? P.S. I'm more of a coal type of BBQer. Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 2Mar 08, 2009 1:29 pm Really depends if you use a gas or normal BBQ. We thought about it, but we dont have a gas BBQ, so no point. Built the Atlantique 37 Mk2 with Carlisle Homes - WE'RE IN!! Building thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=14413 ATLANTIQUE 37 MK2 PHOTOS THREAD - updated 22nd August '09 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22399 Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 3Mar 08, 2009 1:31 pm I get what they are saying, it saves having to re-fill bbq gas bottles, but I think you also need different BBQ's so would need a new one - but if you are thinking of creating an outdoor kitchen type setup in your alfresco then it might be worthwhile. I'm personally happy enough with a normal bbq and gas bottle 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure gas 5Mar 08, 2009 2:16 pm We are having a gas point put in our al fresco bit we have natural gas and a natural gas bbq, so it is convenient for us. I think it depends on what you use out there? www.themaxbuild.blogspot.com forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20717&start=300 www.leahspaperpassion.blogspot.com Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 6Mar 08, 2009 3:38 pm iTalk for the sake of comparison for you, we are having a gas tap put in our alfresco by Porter Davis for $219.
It has to be situated on a wall of the house, when we move in I will have to figure out how to have it piped from the house wall to the BBQ which we will be situated towards the fence in such a way that it is unobtrusive. Themax you do have any ideas on that? Cheers. Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 7Mar 08, 2009 3:45 pm Natural gas bbq conversion kits have a cost as well, so budget that in as well. Also, I have a friend who has natural gas and although it is a lot cheaper to run, he reckons he gets less heat out of his burners than he would from a gas bottle. The theory is that there is less pressure on the natural gas line than there is in the bottles.
Work it out though. Personally, I go through 1 to 1.5 gas bottles per year. (and that's cooking on the bbq a fair bit). So that's around $40-$50 per year. Natural gas would probably cost you a fraction of that, but after you've factored in the $400 - $500 set up cost (running a line and converting your bbq), I'd be looking at 8 - 10 years before it's worth it. By then, I would probably be renewing my bbq anyways and would have to fork out for another conversion. I know you have the convenience of having it on tap and never having to go to the servo for a refill, but once or twice a year doesn't really bug me. My 2c worth anyways. Good luck Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 8Mar 08, 2009 4:43 pm We've had one put out in our outdoor area so we don't need to worry about using gas bottles all the time, or having them run out ! Just makes life easier I guess esp if you use the bbq a lot. We are planning on having more bbqs when we finally get in so thought it was a good idea!
We've also asked for a tap as well so we can hook up a sink once we have built in the outdoor bbq setting. Building in Brisbane SW Suburbs Started on site with plumbing on 30/3 - Lock up 2/5 - 15/6 Recd Fixing Invoice - 18/6 Painter to start ! gas point 9Mar 08, 2009 4:46 pm Zerosignal
My DH will build a rendered type built in thingo for the BBQ to sit in. My DH said that if you are having a concrete floor in your al fresco you may be able to get the plumber/gas fitter to run the pipe up the wall across the roof inside and down a pillar or wherever you need it to be situated. I hope that helps you a bit. It should be most unobtrusive that way and you will be able to paint over the pipe as it runs over the wall. There must be a plumber/gasfitter on Homeone that will respond and give you a professional answer. We didn't pay for the Gas point because we were given one point in the house. I am allergic to gas heater emissions and we have air con. We moved the point o the al fresco instead. Very convenient. I can smell those snags already.... PS. We also asked for H and C taps for a sink adjacent to the bbq area. I hate having to run in and out of the house when entertaining, it takes all the relaxation out of it... www.themaxbuild.blogspot.com forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20717&start=300 www.leahspaperpassion.blogspot.com Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 10Mar 09, 2009 7:39 am Set up of natural gas is ~$200 for the line, $90 for the conversion kit for the BBQ from Bunnings. It's not a huge cost and it saves you having to refill/exchange your bottle.
Also remember that when you're not using teh BBQ, you can also hook up a natural gas heater to it in the colder months so you can still use your outdoor living area for entertaining Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 11Mar 09, 2009 8:18 am We are putting ours just outside of the alfresco. Then ventilation isn't an issue. I wouldn't put one under the roofline without a rangehood as well. Then you are just trapping the smells and smoke in the alfresco.
I'm not sure, but I remember reading somewhere that there's regualtions about having them under the roof line in Vic becuase of the ventilation issue. Not sure on that though. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 12Mar 09, 2009 9:56 am External Gas points are alittle like TV points, no matter where you put them you'll want to put the BBQ/TV in a different location and you'll be stuck. The good part about TV points is you can get a safe an easy extension lead, not so easy with a BBQ. We didnt get one as we couldnt decide where the BBQ would live and eventually decided that a more portable BBA was what we needed. Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 13Mar 09, 2009 11:19 am Mel&Em Natural gas bbq conversion kits have a cost as well, so budget that in as well. Also, I have a friend who has natural gas and although it is a lot cheaper to run, he reckons he gets less heat out of his burners than he would from a gas bottle. The theory is that there is less pressure on the natural gas line than there is in the bottles. I believe that is correct, but I'm pretty sure you need different jets which have a bigger hole to allow for the lower pressure. Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 14Mar 09, 2009 11:24 am I also do agree that cooking something that smells is best to be done outside.
THis is what my uncle does in his house which he builds 4 years ago. He and his DW rarely cooks in their internal kitchen. (probably they only prepare deserts in the kitchen). Deep frying and stir-frying are always done outside in their alfresco. As a result, 4 years down the road. their kitchen is as new! the rangehood is as new! not a single tinge of oil and grime. So I am also a big fan of cooking outside. But, cooking in the garage, I have not really seen anyone done that before? We are also thinking of putting a gas point in our alfresco. Williams Landing Stage 10 - Kingwell Neighbourhood Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 15Mar 09, 2009 11:27 am I doubt you'd be allowed to put one in a garage or any contained room. We put one in - it cost $125. I am always filling gas bottles currently - bbq and outdoor heater. I hate using the swap bottles as you end up with someone elses old one so have to search for a place that actually fills them. Fi has moved in!! Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 16Mar 09, 2009 11:32 am Mal Mel&Em Natural gas bbq conversion kits have a cost as well, so budget that in as well. Also, I have a friend who has natural gas and although it is a lot cheaper to run, he reckons he gets less heat out of his burners than he would from a gas bottle. The theory is that there is less pressure on the natural gas line than there is in the bottles. I believe that is correct, but I'm pretty sure you need different jets which have a bigger hole to allow for the lower pressure. The proper conversion kits also come with replacement jets, not just the connection. I believe there are plenty out there that just come with the connection. Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 17Mar 09, 2009 11:45 am You can get natural gas BBQs as well no need for a conversion kit then.
I plan on doing a built in BBQ outside the Alfresco sitting on flush with one of outside pillars. Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco ? 18Mar 10, 2009 5:49 pm Hi iTalk
I know what they are talking about and I can tell youfrom experience that having an outdoor area to cook fish on is great. We have young kids who love fish and cooking it inside always leaves a bit of a fishy smell around. I have a BBQ with a wokburner (that we will be converting to natural gas and having on the alfresco) that I now always use to cook any fish as the smell stays outside. It really is worth it even if you only do fish once every few months. Flaksy Re: Is it appropriate to have gas tap in the garage/alfresco 19Mar 12, 2009 8:51 am iTalk Hi all, My in-laws have been pushing me to have a gas pipe delivered to the garage and/or the alfresco. The reason is that, when cooking something that smells (fish for instant), it won't be appropriate to do it inside the house, rather taking the whole process outside. What are your thoughts in this idea ? P.S. I'm more of a coal type of BBQer. We've had a gas point and hot/cold water point that's connected to our normal water piping (sorry hubby knows the correct terminology ) so that when we put our outside bbq/kitchen set up we can hook up a dishwasher & have a sink with running hot/cold water. Depsite having our rangehood vented completely out I hate the idea of being stuck cooking "smelly" stuff inside and like the idea of being able to cook and entertain (well watch hubby cook on the bbq anyway) while outside in the alfresco that will depend on the kitchen bench depth. you'll have to specify it so it allows for both the tap and the sink 1 7401 7 5147 Brass or 2) Stainless steel made - which Kitchen tap is good for drinking.Brass kitchen taps in Australia contain lead… 0 6740 |