Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Feb 12, 2009 1:13 pm Hi Guys, Just wondering if you could share the following for everyone's benefit:
House Type & Size: (Eg: Double story / 28 squares etc) Ceiling height: (Eg: 2550/2600/2700mm high to ground etc) Paid extra to builder: ($3000 etc) I'm getting varied costs for similar squares house by different builders!! And does it help if your ceiling is higher than normal? Or is it just something you can see on paper!? --- I don't have a signature - just this sentence saying that I don't have one - that'll do! Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for your house? 2Feb 12, 2009 1:20 pm bluemetal77 Hi Guys, Just wondering if you could share the following for everyone's benefit: House Type & Size: (Eg: Double story / 28 squares etc) Ceiling height: (Eg: 2550/2600/2700mm high to ground etc) Paid extra to builder: ($3000 etc) I'm getting varied costs for similar squares house by different builders!! As you normally do. You pay a premium for their designs so there will always be differences in pricing between different builders. You are also paying different prices depending on the buying power of the builder when it comes to raw materials or deals with labourers. Make sure you get a copy of each builders standard inclusions list if you really want to compare. I'm building a 33sq double storey (probably more like 34sq with the outdoor extension) Ceiling heights are 8'6 downstairs (upgraded from 8') and 8' upstairs Paid extra to builder: What do you mean? For upgrades? Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 3Feb 12, 2009 1:24 pm Yes i understand they will vary depending on the house size n builder, but they shouldn't be off by $3k for the same size .. or maybe they can be!?
Paid extra, i mean to raise them to the extended height, how much did the builder charge you? $3K extra, $4K extra ..etc.. --- I don't have a signature - just this sentence saying that I don't have one - that'll do! Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 4Feb 12, 2009 1:31 pm bluemetal77 Yes i understand they will vary depending on the house size n builder, but they shouldn't be off by $3k for the same size .. or maybe they can be!? Paid extra, i mean to raise them to the extended height, how much did the builder charge you? $3K extra, $4K extra ..etc.. I'm still trying to understand exactly what the point of your thread is. By the first post it looks like you're wondering why a house of the same size but different builder are different in price but now I'm thinking you mean just the roof height increase? IF it's just the ceiling hight you're talking about, then this is my info: 33sq double storey 2440mm (8'0) standard ceiling, upgraded to 2590mm (8'6). You can only get downstairs increased, of course. cost: $3,520 Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 5Feb 12, 2009 1:41 pm Yup! That's exactly what i wanna know. Now for eg. One of the builders is charging me $4800 to increase height of the ground ceilings from 2440 to 2600 for a 26sq home. A bit too much isn't it? --- I don't have a signature - just this sentence saying that I don't have one - that'll do! Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 6Feb 12, 2009 1:45 pm I think he means that two builders should be quoting an increased ceiling height should be charging about the same for that increase.
There figures should be similar over a 30 sq house. Just remember to stick to the common ceiling heights of 2400,2550,2700 and 3m. The cost difference between 2700-3000m will be much greater than between 2400-2700. Other than that i don't have an x amount , it would depend on claddings etc Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 8Feb 12, 2009 2:01 pm Oh - forgot to add my opinion on it.
Not sure to be honest - we have to do it to get under our covenant. I'd like a higher ceiling, but if I had the choice, I'd probably just go for 2550. Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 9Feb 12, 2009 2:02 pm Our quote to increase ceilings from standard 2440 to 2700 was $8587 extra on a 490sqm home. Needless to say we stuck with the standard height as eight and half thousand was better spent elsewhere!! Some things are worth waiting for. Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 10Feb 12, 2009 2:03 pm Raising ceiling height can be an expensive luxury... Dependant on the house design, it means additional plasterboard, taller wall frames which may have to be upsized dependant on wind loadings, and additional exterior wall material... Because of the additional wall height, the wind loading on the house may also increase the bracing and tie down requirements... Electrical Engineer... Don't hold that against me... And keen owner builder... Mainly the building part!! Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 11Feb 12, 2009 2:21 pm House Type & Size: (Eg: Double story / 36 squares)
Ceiling height: (Eg: 2.590 (8'6') high to ground standard 2.440m) Paid extra to builder: ($3466 - ground floor only) Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 12Feb 12, 2009 3:12 pm chuth77 Raising ceiling height can be an expensive luxury... Dependant on the house design, it means additional plasterboard, taller wall frames which may have to be upsized dependant on wind loadings, and additional exterior wall material... Because of the additional wall height, the wind loading on the house may also increase the bracing and tie down requirements... Generally increasing the ceiling height in a double storey does not increase the height of the house, it just lessens the cavity space between floors so exterior is not a problem Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 13Feb 12, 2009 3:38 pm stevep79 generally increasing the ceiling height in a double storey does not increase the height of the house, it just lessens the cavity space between floors so exterior is not a problem Well actually normally floor cavity's are determined by the height of the floor joist which generally cant be reduced so it would increase the overall height. Personally i prefer 2700, 2400 &2550 makes the house feel like a unit inside and 3000 doesn't look good unless you use 8ft doors in my opinion. Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 14Feb 12, 2009 9:31 pm This is what we were quoted in 2007:
The house is 35 squares, single storey. Standard ceiling height for our builder was 2440mm. To increase to to 2590mm, the cost was $2,750. We got that as part of a sales promotion though, so it cost us very little. THEN, due to estate covenants, we had to increase further to 2740mm. That cost an extra $3,240. I'm more than happy with our high ceilings. I think they look better, the house seems a lot more spacious, and we notice a difference in how cool it stays in summer, compared with our old house. We also increased internal door heights, as standard doors just looked silly. Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 16Feb 12, 2009 10:08 pm We paid $4580 to raise ceilings from 2.7 to 3m, our house is 30 squares approx, single storey.
bluemetal77 And does it help if your ceiling is higher than normal? help what? It helps the place look and feel bigger; i just feel like i'M in a nicer space with my high ceilings Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 17Feb 12, 2009 10:43 pm Our builder offered 2.7 high ceilings standard.
Annie A thankful person is a happy person. [/color]My hobby design blog: http://aviewondesign.blogspot.com/ Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 18Feb 12, 2009 11:57 pm Our council stipulates that we must have 2.7m ceilings to ground and first floor!!!! Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 19Feb 13, 2009 12:34 am stevep79 Generally increasing the ceiling height in a double storey does not increase the height of the house, it just lessens the cavity space between floors so exterior is not a problem What a crock... Who told you that... Take a look at it from the common sense point of view... The builder is going to do it the cheapest way possible... If you want to pay for taller cielings, then he's gonna hit you up for the additional cost of engineering, and timber required... Electrical Engineer... Don't hold that against me... And keen owner builder... Mainly the building part!! Re: High ceilings - How much did you pay for it? Does it help? 20Feb 13, 2009 7:59 am chuth77 stevep79 Generally increasing the ceiling height in a double storey does not increase the height of the house, it just lessens the cavity space between floors so exterior is not a problem What a crock... Who told you that... Take a look at it from the common sense point of view... The builder is going to do it the cheapest way possible... If you want to pay for taller cielings, then he's gonna hit you up for the additional cost of engineering, and timber required... I never said it wouldn't cost extra. I just said the overall height of the house doesn't have to change. I already said my taller ceilings cost $3.5k Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Thanks mate. Yeah good points! Leaning towards Option 3 to get a bit extra space in the cabinets but not going too crazy high (and expensive). Would require a mini… 13 39256 I was quoting framing timber sizes from Australian Standard AS1684.4 Table A13 for 2700mm wall heights Tile Roof, single storey. This Australian Standard doesn't refer to… 8 7260 Hi Mofflepop, I would recommend finding a building designer to prepare plans, they should design to your specified budget. The benefit is you can tender the project out… 9 20135 |