Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Feb 02, 2009 6:43 pm I couldnt find any previous threads on this
Im planning to run my own network cables through our house when we build. Which includes wiring from several rooms back to a patch panel in my study cupboard etc etc The cable runs are easy, my question is how do they then get connected to the face plates etc. Do i ask the plasters to pull the cables through, do i get the electrician to do this, or do i go round punching holes in the walls to pull cables through? Im not at the stage where I can ask my eleccy yet so just wondering Blog - http://snakedr.blogspot.com/ Build Thread - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12084&p=307406#p307406 Status - PCI 15/10. Things nearly done. Re: Running your own cables 2Feb 02, 2009 8:37 pm My husband has done the same for our house. When we put all the cable in, we took photos of everything - so we could see where the cables came from, where in the wall/ceiling they ran, and where they finished. We were planning on punching the holes ourself and relying on the photos and measurements to tell us where the holes should go, but when the plasterer went through, he punched small holes everywhere a faceplate should go (both electricity and network). It was easy enough for us to pull the cables through then and attach the faceplate ourselves.
I'm not sure if it's standard for plasterers to do this, but it made our job a lot easier! Maybe check with your plasterer to see if they can do the same thing. Re: Running your own cables 3Feb 02, 2009 8:46 pm Some faceplates also allow a direct connection to the rear of the plate.
Therefore this deletes the need to strip and wire up the rear. They are more exy, but going on smithy's method which im planning on using also it makes it easy. take photos and measurements when you throw the cables around and then later on do the last bit yourself. Re: Running your own cables 4Feb 02, 2009 8:49 pm I also have intention to do some wiring myself. Do I just lay and secure the wires so I know where they start and end? Are there anything else I need to do or know about? Do I need to put brackets on the frame so faceplates can be installed?
I was planning to wait till the electrician to do all planned wiring first, then I go in and mimic how the wiring is done and how they are laid around the house, so my wiring won't interfere. Is that the right approach? With these stupid questions, it is obvious I am not handy at all Building Clarendon Brighton - Done and moved in Sept 2009 Re: Running your own cables 5Feb 02, 2009 9:48 pm yes, once your frame's up and the electrician has been you can just lay your cables next to them
there's a house going up across the road ive been keeping an eye on but once it hits lockup im going to lose my inside knowledge... and the electrical cables are run, with some Ethernet next to them in places, the plasterers are nearly done and today ive spotted some holes around the traps with power and a data coming through, so not sure who's doing that and how i get this done, its probably best if the plasterers do it so they know what they are doing, there are measurements marked on the slab so that might be how they know where things are hoping someone knows what the deal is Blog - http://snakedr.blogspot.com/ Build Thread - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12084&p=307406#p307406 Status - PCI 15/10. Things nearly done. Re: Running your own cables 6Feb 02, 2009 11:29 pm When I went to do the same my electrician told me in no uncertain terms that internet cables are not to be placed anywhere near electrical cables. He told me to run them on the other side of the stud. It can actually be quite a big job, especially when you get towards the hub and are trying to run 4-6 or more cables thru holes in the noggins. This is particularly difficult if there happens to be insulation in the walls. Re: Running your own cables 7Feb 02, 2009 11:37 pm billdsl yes, once your frame's up and the electrician has been you can just lay your cables next to them Its a good idea to run power and data at least 300mm apart to avoid the risk of interference. Re: Running your own cables 8Feb 03, 2009 6:24 am you don't need to strip cat 5/6 cable.. You just need a krone punchdown tool and some krone sockets. The sockets will just fit into a clipsal or hpm faceplate and you just rip the blue cover of the cable and punch down each of the 8 wires into the krone socket. Quite easy once you do it a couple of times. Re: Running your own cables 9Feb 03, 2009 6:59 am eho I also have intention to do some wiring myself. Do I just lay and secure the wires so I know where they start and end? Are there anything else I need to do or know about? Do I need to put brackets on the frame so faceplates can be installed? I was planning to wait till the electrician to do all planned wiring first, then I go in and mimic how the wiring is done and how they are laid around the house, so my wiring won't interfere. Is that the right approach? With these stupid questions, it is obvious I am not handy at all Hello Eho, i have taken 2 basic long cable runs with builder. The rest I plan to do exactly the way you mentioned !! Buildling a Clarendon Crestmead in Sydney DA Approved on 20/03/2008 Slab Poured on 02/09/2008 Frame Completed 15/10/2008 Brickwork Complete 2/02/2009 Roofwork Complete 05/03/2009 Re: Running your own cables 10Feb 03, 2009 7:24 am so will i need a drill bit to put holes in the noggins to run the cables?
and does this mean that you can run the actual faceplate's next to the power points or do you need to keep them right away as well? Blog - http://snakedr.blogspot.com/ Build Thread - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12084&p=307406#p307406 Status - PCI 15/10. Things nearly done. Re: Running your own cables 11Feb 03, 2009 7:33 am Faceplates should be installed on opposite sides of a stud...
Just keep in mind that you should be a licenced cabler to do this work... They would know all the clearances required, the crossover distances etc etc... You should at least contact the cabler who will do the final hookup for you... He may be happy for you to run the cable, but then again he may not! Electrical Engineer... Don't hold that against me... And keen owner builder... Mainly the building part!! Re: Running your own cables 12Feb 03, 2009 8:11 am Who needs cables in this day in age - wifi!! 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: Running your own cables 13Feb 03, 2009 8:32 am Hi All,
We are getting our house built with a volume builder and have been told that no one apart from the builder authorized contractors have access to the house during construction stage. Those of you getting the cables installed on their own, are you building with a private builder or a volume builder? Any recommendation for a certified contractor in S/E Melbourne to get ethernet cabling installed? Thanks Samir Re: Running your own cables 14Feb 03, 2009 11:57 am im building with a smaller builder, but have a note in the contract saying I will be installing the cabling myself
not all my devices have wifi my blu-ray player and my mediagate both need ethernet, so im stuck with a bit of cabling still Blog - http://snakedr.blogspot.com/ Build Thread - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12084&p=307406#p307406 Status - PCI 15/10. Things nearly done. Re: Running your own cables 16Feb 03, 2009 4:54 pm Have you though of using Ethernet Over Power?
Although running cabling is by far the fastest solution (datarate wise), EOP is a fantastic alternative. It basically lets you run your ethernet connection through your existing powerline. I have been using it for over four years now and love it. All you need are at least two EOP plugs. Plug one near your modem or hub and the other into any powerpoint or powerboard. Then plug your computer, media player etc. in the other end. No software installation required. If you want to use a laptop in another room, just move the EOP plug. I currently use a Netcomm Turbo Plug http://www.netcomm.com.au/products/ethernetoverpower/np285 which runs up to 85mbs with a range of up to 200m. I had this model for two years now without any issues. Every year or so they release a faster one. The latest runs at 200mbs. Mine is fast enough to run HD video from my main PC and very fast Internet speeds (Optus cable). Is fairly close to the PC with the direct link to the modem. Just thought I would mention this as a cost effective, simple alternative to running cables. FD2 www.thebedbug.com.au Children's Licenced and Treehouse Manchester for all of those new rooms! Fringe Dwellers - Building Urbanedge Homes Larne 002 www.devohosting.com.au/fringedwellers Re: Running your own cables 17Feb 03, 2009 5:43 pm Ethernet over Power is good, but it does cost at lot more than having normal ethernet cable.
My house is steel frame so it is very easy to run cables as all the nogins are predrilled. And wifi is also great but way to slow to run HD video properly. Re: Running your own cables 18Feb 03, 2009 5:47 pm yer it does look expensive, but i didnt know it was that easy
i can nearly run my entire house for about the cost of one of those eop sets i went over to the house across the road today and the gap between the ethernet and the power is about 300mm so i will just run them around this far apart im sourcing my gear through our works eleccy/cabler so he should give me the run down on the do's and dont's still not sure who mounts the face plates though, i guess i come through after paint etc to terminate the cables into the plates and the plasterers will pull them through the walls? Blog - http://snakedr.blogspot.com/ Build Thread - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12084&p=307406#p307406 Status - PCI 15/10. Things nearly done. Re: Running your own cables 19Feb 03, 2009 6:23 pm I picked up my EOP plugs for around $130 for two plugs, but that was shopping around. I am not sure how much a decent roll of ethernet cable, plus the face plates would cost, but I would think they would not be that cheap.
That being said, I would love our place to have either ethernet or fibre optic, ( too expense) but I went with the easier solution. It may not be too far away that ethernet is likely to be too slow. FD2 www.thebedbug.com.au Children's Licenced and Treehouse Manchester for all of those new rooms! Fringe Dwellers - Building Urbanedge Homes Larne 002 www.devohosting.com.au/fringedwellers Re: Running your own cables 20Feb 03, 2009 7:17 pm fringe dwellers I picked up my EOP plugs for around $130 for two plugs, but that was shopping around. I am not sure how much a decent roll of ethernet cable, plus the face plates would cost, but I would think they would not be that cheap. That being said, I would love our place to have either ethernet or fibre optic, ( too expense) but I went with the easier solution. It may not be too far away that ethernet is likely to be too slow. FD2 Do you stream HD video over it? 2 6192 Hi all I am looking to run a water line under my concrete footpath which is directly next to my home, was seeing if this is possible without cutting the entire section… 0 20182 Hi Mofflepop, I would recommend finding a building designer to prepare plans, they should design to your specified budget. The benefit is you can tender the project out… 9 20417 |