Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Sep 21, 2010 9:12 pm Currently almost finished getting a new house built, and one thing I overlooked was checking with the electrical contractors exactly how I would get the fibre-optic cable for Foxtel or broadband from the street to my house. From what I can see they have run an approx 2cm conduit to the "telepit" in front of the house which is obviously for the phone line. But when it comes time to install the fibre-optic cable, will they be able to pull the cable through this same conduit? Are there any problems running the phone line and the fibre cable through the same conduit? I am a bit concerned because I have an awkward block and would hate to have to dig up the yard again to install another conduit. Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 2Sep 21, 2010 10:16 pm and that is the question everyone has asked and to my knowledge no one can answer. I don't think anyone knows or if a decision has even been made with this. The rollout in Tasmania was actually done using the existing optical fibre roll out and simply upgrading the point in eveyones house and the exchanges - so this wasn't actually a full rollout like the rest of the country is getting. You could assume all kinds of things about how they will do it. Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 3Sep 21, 2010 10:33 pm Mozzie and that is the question everyone has asked and to my knowledge no one can answer. I don't think anyone knows or if a decision has even been made with this. The rollout in Tasmania was actually done using the existing optical fibre roll out and simply upgrading the point in eveyones house and the exchanges - so this wasn't actually a full rollout like the rest of the country is getting. You could assume all kinds of things about how they will do it. I'm in Brisbane and the cable has been in the street for some years. My house is a knockdown/rebuild. I am sure the fibre cable will fit in the conduit okay, but not sure of 2 things: Firstly how they will pull or push the cable through; and secondly, if there are any restrictions/interference/legalities (or whatever) with running the telephone and fiber cables up the same conduit. Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 4Sep 21, 2010 11:06 pm Are you sure you cant get internet/fox/phone/fta tv all via the fibre optic? If you can then its pretty simple to run it into an ONT, then all your cabling goes into your distribution point and then into the house - the copper line is redundant. Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 5Sep 22, 2010 8:33 am Huggy_B Are you sure you cant get internet/fox/phone/fta tv all via the fibre optic? If you can then its pretty simple to run it into an ONT, then all your cabling goes into your distribution point and then into the house - the copper line is redundant. There is definitely some sort of cable in the street because the old house had it. When they leveled the block they crushed the old conduit and cable. Rather than try and resurrect it, I was hoping they could use the new conduit they have laid for the phone line. Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 6Sep 22, 2010 9:15 am Does the phone line not come into the house via the fibre optic cable? Seems kind of redundant to have your internet but not phone line through fibre optics?? If they had to run fibre optic and copper it would be through the same conduit anyway I would have thought - the fibre optic cable is tiny, like a few mm diameter........contractors will always take the path of least resistance (work). Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 7Sep 22, 2010 9:29 am Huggy_B Does the phone line not come into the house via the fibre optic cable? Seems kind of redundant to have your internet but not phone line through fibre optics?? If they had to run fibre optic and copper it would be through the same conduit anyway I would have thought - the fibre optic cable is tiny, like a few mm diameter........contractors will always take the path of least resistance (work). Okay I'm very confused (and behind the times). I thought all phone lines were still copper. The phone wiring in the house is at least copper. There is no wiring to the street yet. So is this likely to be fibre? Will they convert the fibre to copper at the house? Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 8Sep 22, 2010 9:31 am Fibre cable can be run in any conduit containing another service, be that data\telephony, electrical or gas. As the cable carries no electricity and gets no interference it's within code to lay it next to those services. However the likelyhood is they will use the telecomunications cabling to pull through the fibre run (ie tie it to the end and literally pull it through the same conduit). Hope this helps. Building a Plantation Emperor Q1 at Spring Mountain Estate, Greenbank SE QLD Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 9Sep 22, 2010 9:40 am TazR Okay I'm very confused (and behind the times). I thought all phone lines were still copper. The phone wiring in the house is at least copper. There is no wiring to the street yet. So is this likely to be fibre? Will they convert the fibre to copper at the house? If you have fibre optic cabling in the street, then your data and phone lines should run through it. I know telstra no longer lay copper lines, everything is gearing towards FO. In my estate, the phone/foxtel/internet/fta tv all come into the house via fibre optics. Once at the house (ONT), then it goes to a distribution board and is wired through the house with "standard" cabling. Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 10Sep 22, 2010 10:29 am Okay everyone's comments here have been very helpful. The thing I never knew was that the fibre could also be used for the phone. Hopefully they will just need to install the one fibre cable to do everything. Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 11Sep 22, 2010 9:25 pm Huggy_B In my estate, the phone/foxtel/internet/fta tv all come into the house via fibre optics. Once at the house (ONT), then it goes to a distribution board and is wired through the house with "standard" cabling. I know that you can watch FTA through your pay tv box once you pay for a service (satellite or cable), but are you saying that you can get FTA in your street from fibre optic cable regardless of whether you have a pay subscription or not? So you don't need a tv antenna? Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 12Sep 22, 2010 10:48 pm TazR Currently almost finished getting a new house built, and one thing I overlooked was checking with the electrical contractors exactly how I would get the fibre-optic cable for Foxtel or broadband from the street to my house. From what I can see they have run an approx 2cm conduit to the "telepit" in front of the house which is obviously for the phone line. But when it comes time to install the fibre-optic cable, will they be able to pull the cable through this same conduit? Are there any problems running the phone line and the fibre cable through the same conduit? I am a bit concerned because I have an awkward block and would hate to have to dig up the yard again to install another conduit. Depending on what build model... as that hasn't even been decided on yet all we can do is hope that they will use the Telstra Lead in Conduit. That being said in the current FTTH estates all the Fibre lead in have had thier own conduit. approx 2cm conduit aka 20mm telstra lead in conduit.. yes they have their own speced conduit and yes we have to use it for lead ins.. I'm lead to beleive that NBN will pull the Fibre to houses via the Lead in Conduit... or well I'm hoping so.... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 13Sep 23, 2010 9:24 am TazR Huggy_B In my estate, the phone/foxtel/internet/fta tv all come into the house via fibre optics. Once at the house (ONT), then it goes to a distribution board and is wired through the house with "standard" cabling. I know that you can watch FTA through your pay tv box once you pay for a service (satellite or cable), but are you saying that you can get FTA in your street from fibre optic cable regardless of whether you have a pay subscription or not? So you don't need a tv antenna? I have Foxtel and I cant access all the FTA TV channels through it? Only ABC and SBS if I recall correctly.... might be a WA thing, they don't like us way over here! And correct about the antenna - it is one of my estate covanents: no aerials on the roof! Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 14Sep 23, 2010 12:10 pm Huggy_B I have Foxtel and I cant access all the FTA TV channels through it? Only ABC and SBS if I recall correctly.... might be a WA thing, they don't like us way over here! And correct about the antenna - it is one of my estate covanents: no aerials on the roof! won't stop you putting one In the roof. Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 15Sep 23, 2010 12:57 pm Pugs won't stop you putting one In the roof. I'm aware you can put an antenna in you roof if the signal is strong enough, but what I'm questioning is the need for a tv antenna at all. People seem to be saying that they can get fta over fibre, but I still don't understand how you can get this without a pay tv subscription. Does the fta signal get converted to a standard tv signal at the ONT? Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 16Sep 23, 2010 3:14 pm If you are talking the NBN, the situation is a little confusing: In Tasmania, at least in the areas currently connected or about to be connected, the line goes in to your house the same way your electricity does - aerial if you have aerial power, underground if you have underground power. It was done this way because Aurora Energy, the states electricity retailer, was a partner of the proposal, so basically connections could get started straight away. On the mainland it is a bit different, NBNCo struck an arrangement with Telstra to use their pits and ducts etc. So it is likely that when NBN comes to your area, they will rip out your copper line and replace it with fibre, or at least put them both in the same conduit. If you are talking a different fibre provider, eg. Opticomm or Telstra Velocity, then who knows - I would definitely advise, however, to include an empty conduit or two from your boundary to the termination point inside your house! Once the fibre is in, it can be used for your broadband, your telephone, your pay tv, and dozens of other things that haven't been invented yet :) Built 3br house in Glenorchy, Tas in 2001 * * * Built 5br courtyard house in Lenah Valley, Tas in 2011 - Homeone thread / Blog Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 17Sep 23, 2010 3:17 pm Pugs Huggy_B I have Foxtel and I cant access all the FTA TV channels through it? Only ABC and SBS if I recall correctly.... might be a WA thing, they don't like us way over here! And correct about the antenna - it is one of my estate covanents: no aerials on the roof! won't stop you putting one In the roof. Wont need one at all. Digital signal through the fibre isn't affected now is it? Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 18Sep 23, 2010 6:43 pm I'm pretty sure the cable in my street is Telstra cable used for Internet and Foxtel - laid well over 10 years ago. When (or if) the NBN ever comes to my area, will this cable be replaced? Will the NBN cable be technologically any better? And if they do replace the cable in my street, with they also have to replace the cable running to the house? Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 19Sep 23, 2010 8:12 pm That sounds like coax cable that they use for cable internet/pay TV. In which case its a copper based cable and won't be replaced or used as part of the NBN. My guess is that Telstra will continue to use this for their pay TV. Also to my knowledge there is no current plan to use fibre for supplying FTA TV. You will still have to rely on picking up broadcast UHF/VHF signals. Re: getting fibre-optic cable from street to house 20Sep 23, 2010 9:09 pm Mozzie Also to my knowledge there is no current plan to use fibre for supplying FTA TV. It was available on TasCOLT (FTTH trial system ran from 2006/7 to just before NBN). Don't know about the NBN but the ONT boxes certainly have support for it built in. Built 3br house in Glenorchy, Tas in 2001 * * * Built 5br courtyard house in Lenah Valley, Tas in 2011 - Homeone thread / Blog DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair All my inside walls are Fibre Cement & House has Steel frames... Tricky when one wants to hang pictures or do Wainscoating Paneling up the hallway. Those little nail… 0 3160 Approvals are covered in the cost we are paying to the pool company. The only thing stated in our home build contract for the additional cost is engineering support. … 3 7128 Hi all. I'm thinking of installing an electric gate in front of this street front villa (link below). 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