Browse Forums Building A New House Re: cost of home design drawing 2Nov 11, 2008 2:33 am It depends on if you already have a design or not - that $4500 I would assume would include design as well??
Architects will generally charge more, but I would look at drafters/building designers as well. One quoted me at $6-$12 per m2 for full working drawings and construction plans, another was $60 per sq - but these are if you already have a design in mind. For a design as well it was $650-$900 for a basic review and then another $6-$12 per m2 for full concept and design drawings. But also don't forget before you even start construction there are other costs to take into account (soil reports, site survey, property information from council, star energy rating, engineering etc.) As always with anything in building - shop around! After 2 false starts, a year living overseas, two more world trips and 3 years of uncertainty we are now starting the build process again - hopefully for real this time! Re: cost of home design drawing 3Nov 12, 2008 3:29 pm Peter Clarkson - AusDesign Australia www.ausdesign.com.au This information is intended to provide general information only. It does not purport to be a comprehensive advice. Re: cost of home design drawing 4Nov 12, 2008 4:50 pm Heres a post I wrote months ago, it might help.
My two cents worth: Drafting a house is usually done in 3 steps; 1. Development Approval stage (DA), architectural drawings prepared to indicate to council that the proposed dwelling is r-code compliant and meets land zone use, gives council a rough idea of the dwelling plan layout and elevation treatment. Drawings are pretty preliminary. 2. Building license stage, almost full set of architectural drawings prepared to indicate to council that the dwelling is BCA compliant, energy efficency rated, and structurally engineered. Drawings are at about 80% complete. 3. Construction documentation stage. A complete set of architectural drawings pinpointing everything required to a)send out for tender to builders, and b) to build the house from. Thats the drafting process in very simplistic terms. As far as pricing goes, it varies dramatically. Dependant on many factors like, whats the design like, how resolved is the design, how complicated is it, how many sheets of drawings required to tell the builders how to build it, do you want every nut and bolt drawn, or are you willing to let the tradies resolve issues as they build it. Do you require electrical plans, ceiling layouts, landscaping layouts...the list goes on and on. All this should be hammered out with your draftie before he draws a single line. You both need an agreed plan of action, where you know what your getting and he knows what he's providing. Pat. Re: cost of home design drawing 5Nov 12, 2008 9:39 pm Architects usually charge around 10% for a residential building, so $4500 is a good price for an architect. Building designers are around 5% whereas a draftsperson would charge around $3000 for domestic plan preparation (+ extra for site visits etc.)
Source: Cordell Commercial, Industrial Housing Building Cost Guide, WA August 2008. Re: cost of home design drawing 7Nov 13, 2008 12:29 pm amilelka Architects usually charge around 10% for a residential building, so $4500 is a good price for an architect. Won't get much of a house for $45,000. I just went through the drawing phase from scratch and paid $2,500 for 3D rendered drawings (Revit) and then $4,500 for the structural drawings (done by an engineer). There are limits to what a draftie can do, and the same with builders. Re: cost of home design drawing 8Nov 13, 2008 1:26 pm david s I just went through the drawing phase from scratch and paid $2,500 for 3D rendered drawings (Revit) and then $4,500 for the structural drawings (done by an engineer). There are limits to what a draftie can do, and the same with builders. My two cents worth; If you dont have a clue about design or buildings or what you want, then get an Architect. They will design in all your requirements from scratch, and do pretty 3D render drawings for you visualise the end product. Architects are very good in this process. If you know what you want, Get a draftie. Drafties will take your design, knowing you have done all the scribbles and fully thought it through. They will document your design to Planning requirements and final working drawings. No need for the fluffy 3D rendering, the client already knows exactly what he's getting. Drafties are very good in this process. Finally, 'there are limits to what a draftie can do' is not really a valid statement, they are completely different trades. Its like comparing a car to a motorbike. Regards, Pat. Re: cost of home design drawing 9Nov 14, 2008 5:03 am Pat the draftie david s If you dont have a clue about design or buildings or what you want, then get an Architect. They will design in all your requirements from scratch, and do pretty 3D render drawings for you visualise the end product. Architects are very good in this process. If you know what you want, Get a draftie. Drafties will take your design, knowing you have done all the scribbles and fully thought it through. They will document your design to Planning requirements and final working drawings. No need for the fluffy 3D rendering, the client already knows exactly what he's getting. Drafties are very good in this process. I've spoken to a few drafting companies and there's a couple that offer a design service as well as drawing up the plans. e.g. Action Drafting http://www.actiondrafting.com.au/ After 2 false starts, a year living overseas, two more world trips and 3 years of uncertainty we are now starting the build process again - hopefully for real this time! Re: cost of home design drawing 10Nov 16, 2008 2:28 pm Pat the draftie Finally, 'there are limits to what a draftie can do' is not really a valid statement, they are completely different trades. Its like comparing a car to a motorbike. Regards, Pat. My point "there are limits to what a draftie can do" is referring the structural design of the house such as the slab design, footings and pierings, roof tie downs, wall bracing, truss design etc which is something normally handled by a structural engineer. I don't know if architects can do some of the structural design since they spend years at uni, maybe you could clear that part up. (i know builders can do some of the structural design under limited circumstances) My point to the OP is that the structural drawings maybe a considerable cost, this maybe in addition to the architectural drawings provided by a draftie or an architect and is something that I would definitely be clarifying. And builders won't quote houses based architectural drawings alone without any structural details - read some of the posts here where people have site fees of $50,000 due to reactive soils. There are just too many variations. Re: cost of home design drawing 11Nov 16, 2008 10:03 pm Hey Muzzman,
I heard that drafting company is ridiculously slow with getting working drawings done, my mate used them for a 3 townhouse development in Wantirna he was building and they took months to get them back to him. Bailey. Energy efficient custom built house - Moving In 3 Weeks Re: cost of home design drawing 12Nov 17, 2008 4:41 am Bailey - good to know!
David - my father is a senior lecturer in Civil Engineering at QUT in Brisbane. Architects spend 5 years at uni and do a lot of the same subjects that the Civil Engineers do so they can get a better feel for the structural side of things. I didn't even think of this side of it when I was talking about drafties so that's good to know too! After 2 false starts, a year living overseas, two more world trips and 3 years of uncertainty we are now starting the build process again - hopefully for real this time! Re: cost of home design drawing 13Nov 17, 2008 9:02 am david s Pat the draftie Finally, 'there are limits to what a draftie can do' is not really a valid statement, they are completely different trades. Its like comparing a car to a motorbike. Regards, Pat. My point "there are limits to what a draftie can do" is referring the structural design of the house such as the slab design, footings and pierings, roof tie downs, wall bracing, truss design etc which is something normally handled by a structural engineer. I don't know if architects can do some of the structural design since they spend years at uni, maybe you could clear that part up. (i know builders can do some of the structural design under limited circumstances) My point to the OP is that the structural drawings maybe a considerable cost, this maybe in addition to the architectural drawings provided by a draftie or an architect and is something that I would definitely be clarifying. And builders won't quote houses based architectural drawings alone without any structural details - read some of the posts here where people have site fees of $50,000 due to reactive soils. There are just too many variations. I'll try and clear this up a bit. When Im talking about Architects and drafties, Im talking about the field of architecture. Architects doing the design role in this field, architectural drafties doing the documentation role in this field. Structural design/drafting is a whole other ball game. Youll find that neither an architect or or architectural draftie will do structural drawings, for a few good reasons. 1) They are not qualified to carry out this work, and more than likely will not know what their talking about. They'll either under design the structure, and it may fail, or they'll overdesign the structure and add huge unnecessary expense to the project. 2) In the age of legal insurance and Personal Indemnity Insurance, any architect or architectural draftie would have the pants sued off them for specifying a column or beam that later failed, for that reason youll find notes all over architects and drafties drawings saying 'Refer to Structural Engineers drawings and specifications' this note always occurs around footing details, roof details, columns, beams, etc etc, ie anything structural. 3)Building licence departments of any shire in the country will only accept signed structural drawings by qualified structural engineers. You'll find that an architect or draftie will usually recognise when a column or beam is required, and will have a best guess at it. But really the structural engineer works out all the loads, forces, etc and advises on the optimum structural size required. Thats why they charge the big bucks! In summary; Architects / Architectural Drafties - Do architectural work. Structural Engineers - Do structural Work. Hope this helps. Pat. We already paid for somfy motors for the blinds. The quote above was purely for “pre-wiring” so the blinds company can install the motors and blinds. That’s why we… 5 16082 ideal house depends on the site and location as much as internal floor plan....what is the distance from the house to all four boundaries, where is north, describe your… 3 15085 7 11880 |