Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 May 28, 2024 10:45 pm Kitchen joinery color suggestion: I am planning to go for polyurethane in lexicon quarter white for bottom cabins and drawers. Did anyone try polyurethane in lexicon quarter white matching to internal wall color. Overhead cabin will be Tasmanian OAK woodmatt finish. Appreciate for sharing any images please. Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 2May 29, 2024 9:05 am Hi Sara,
Not too sure, we went with Polyurethane for all our cabinetry, except the top overhead cabinets we with the calcutta design. Colour wise, we went with polar white satin finish. However our wall colour is hailstone white. My parents just painted with lexicon quarter, its quite but i like it. I think that will come out good, but it will be quite bright i presume. The tasmanian Oak for overhead should offset it quite nicely though! Edit: sorry, dont have pictures, we are only at lockup stage, so currently unsure how long until we actually see our paint / cabinetry come to life. Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 3May 29, 2024 9:07 am id check if teh PU yellows over time, as PU anything on or over white tends to yellow. Its less noticable on darker colours to completely not detectable on really dark colours. Personally i wouldnt be matching the cabinets to the walls, id be contrasting them. Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 4May 29, 2024 9:13 am ponzutwo id check if teh PU yellows over time, as PU anything on or over white tends to yellow. Its less noticable on darker colours to completely not detectable on really dark colours. Personally i wouldnt be matching the cabinets to the walls, id be contrasting them. yeah, not sure, the MJH team told me they wont get too bad with colour, depending on how well they are taken care of. I can see them degrading if not kept clean, or perhaps they get too much sunlight maybe. 100% agree, wall colour probably shouldnt match, especially a bright colour like lexicon quarter. Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 5May 29, 2024 9:20 am nickmaj ponzutwo id check if teh PU yellows over time, as PU anything on or over white tends to yellow. Its less noticable on darker colours to completely not detectable on really dark colours. Personally i wouldnt be matching the cabinets to the walls, id be contrasting them. yeah, not sure, the MJH team told me they wont get too bad with colour, depending on how well they are taken care of. I can see them degrading if not kept clean, or perhaps they get too much sunlight maybe. 100% agree, wall colour probably shouldnt match, especially a bright colour like lexicon quarter. the colour yellowing is not related to maintenance. its related to how the oil base in the compound interacts with light, not just sunlight. photons are photons. I was trying to be soft in leading you to the water your white PU cabinets WILL yellow over time. Thats not a debate. as to colour, what colour is the bench, the floor, sink etc? Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 6May 29, 2024 11:12 am ponzutwo nickmaj ponzutwo id check if teh PU yellows over time, as PU anything on or over white tends to yellow. Its less noticable on darker colours to completely not detectable on really dark colours. Personally i wouldnt be matching the cabinets to the walls, id be contrasting them. yeah, not sure, the MJH team told me they wont get too bad with colour, depending on how well they are taken care of. I can see them degrading if not kept clean, or perhaps they get too much sunlight maybe. 100% agree, wall colour probably shouldnt match, especially a bright colour like lexicon quarter. the colour yellowing is not related to maintenance. its related to how the oil base in the compound interacts with light, not just sunlight. photons are photons. I was trying to be soft in leading you to the water your white PU cabinets WILL yellow over time. Thats not a debate. as to colour, what colour is the bench, the floor, sink etc? Yeah, i dunno, only going off what they told me but of course they will up-sell it all haha, appreciate the honesty. I will see how it goes, too late for us too change now haha! - your knowledge is excellent and appreciated. I will probably let Sara answer that as she was asking the initial question. Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 8May 29, 2024 1:17 pm ponzutwo there is an old saying "never ask a fish monger if their fish is fresh" If its to late to make changes, why were you asking? Seems a bit redundant Original post / questions wasn't me, i was just replying to the original post, with opinions based on the colours we went with. I think the OP wanted more comparison photos. Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 10May 29, 2024 5:49 pm ponzutwo, nickmaj thanks you so much for your time guys. my internall wall color will be lexicon quater. and stone will be white calacatta with light grey veins. my cabinet maker suggested below two choices to select for bottom cabins (for Overhead cabins in Tasmanian Oak Woodmatt finish) 1) Polyurethen - White satin finish 2) Polytech - Polar White matt finish bit difficult to decide on white as we are building first time I didnt know that Polyuethene will show yellow overtime. my Cabinet guy told it covers the edges completely so more PU is safe option than polytech for kitchens due to steams. Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 11May 29, 2024 6:34 pm PU shouldn't yellow. It's a 2 Pac finish (think car paint) so is incredibly durable. Vinyl wrap (or thermo laminate) will definitely yellow over time and is not a great option IMO. 2pac or melamine are both on a MR MDF base so both of them should be able to stand up to the rigours of kitchen use equally as well. With melamine you will always have the square join between the face and the edging, however modern Edgebanders make this minimal. 2 Pac gives you the option of rounded or shaped doors and you can have a Matt, satin or gloss finish. The Woodmatt finish is just a melamine so if you are happy with that you may as well go for the polar white melamine. If you want an even more Matt finish ask about polytec legato. It's a painted board that is cut and edged like melamine. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 12May 29, 2024 8:34 pm chippy PU shouldn't yellow. It's a 2 Pac finish (think car paint) so is incredibly durable. Vinyl wrap (or thermo laminate) will definitely yellow over time and is not a great option IMO. 2pac or melamine are both on a MR MDF base so both of them should be able to stand up to the rigours of kitchen use equally as well. With melamine you will always have the square join between the face and the edging, however modern Edgebanders make this minimal. 2 Pac gives you the option of rounded or shaped doors and you can have a Matt, satin or gloss finish. The Woodmatt finish is just a melamine so if you are happy with that you may as well go for the polar white melamine. If you want an even more Matt finish ask about polytec legato. It's a painted board that is cut and edged like melamine. Great thanks chippy how about open shelf pantry in white melamine without doors due to budget. i am planning to keep my appliances (rice cooker, dishwasher etc) in the U shaped open shelf pantry with stone top having a window and adding an exhaust fan. will add a door between pantry and kitchen. will this white melamine open shelfs good enough here or i need to go for durable material (cheaper but very durable materials) kindly advise. Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 13May 29, 2024 8:34 pm Great thanks chippy how about open shelf pantry in white melamine without doors due to budget. i am planning to keep my appliances (rice cooker, dishwasher etc) in the U shaped open shelf pantry with stone top having a window and adding an exhaust fan. will add a door between pantry and kitchen. will this white melamine open shelfs good enough here or i need to go for durable material (cheaper but very durable materials) kindly advise. Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 14May 29, 2024 9:34 pm Sara thy Great thanks chippy how about open shelf pantry in white melamine without doors due to budget. i am planning to keep my appliances (rice cooker, dishwasher etc) in the U shaped open shelf pantry with stone top having a window and adding an exhaust fan. will add a door between pantry and kitchen. will this white melamine open shelfs good enough here or i need to go for durable material (cheaper but very durable materials) kindly advise. The way cabinetry in Australia is typically constructed is like this. Carcass: white melamine HMR particle board. This is often called commodity board. It's the cheapest board you can get and has a slight stippled finish or texture. The same finish is available on MDF board however for carcass it's typically PB. Doors and panels: usually a MR MDF board with selected finish. The finish can be: Melamine (there are a huge range of colours and finishes, including solid colours, patterns, wood look and come in a variety of finishes including matt/pearl, gloss, textured, embossed grains). The edges are finished with an edge strip (usually abs) that is glued on. This is the most cost effective option and is an incredibly resilient finish. Then there is thermo wrapped doors. These can be shaped and then a layer of vinyl is glued to the door face and side using heat, vacuum and glue. This style can have issues around heat causing it to delaminate, and it will change colour over time. Finally there are 2 Pac doors. These are essentially exactly the same as the thermo wrapped doors except they are painted rather than wrapped. The finish is very hard and can be repainted if they are ever damaged. The cheapest and most likely option for your pantry is the carcass board. You can get the same finish on MDF and the cabinet maker may use that as it gives a slightly better finish over PB carcass, although it is more expensive. The finish is not quite as good as a proper coloured melamine as the finish is not quite as thick. It will be as resilient and moisture resistant as what you have in the main kitchen and is typically fine in a pantry setting though. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Kitchen joinery color suggestion 15May 29, 2024 10:03 pm chippy Sara thy Great thanks chippy how about open shelf pantry in white melamine without doors due to budget. i am planning to keep my appliances (rice cooker, dishwasher etc) in the U shaped open shelf pantry with stone top having a window and adding an exhaust fan. will add a door between pantry and kitchen. will this white melamine open shelfs good enough here or i need to go for durable material (cheaper but very durable materials) kindly advise. The way cabinetry in Australia is typically constructed is like this. Carcass: white melamine HMR particle board. This is often called commodity board. It's the cheapest board you can get and has a slight stippled finish or texture. The same finish is available on MDF board however for carcass it's typically PB. Doors and panels: usually a MR MDF board with selected finish. The finish can be: Melamine (there are a huge range of colours and finishes, including solid colours, patterns, wood look and come in a variety of finishes including matt/pearl, gloss, textured, embossed grains). The edges are finished with an edge strip (usually abs) that is glued on. This is the most cost effective option and is an incredibly resilient finish. Then there is thermo wrapped doors. These can be shaped and then a layer of vinyl is glued to the door face and side using heat, vacuum and glue. This style can have issues around heat causing it to delaminate, and it will change colour over time. Finally there are 2 Pac doors. These are essentially exactly the same as the thermo wrapped doors except they are painted rather than wrapped. The finish is very hard and can be repainted if they are ever damaged. The cheapest and most likely option for your pantry is the carcass board. You can get the same finish on MDF and the cabinet maker may use that as it gives a slightly better finish over PB carcass, although it is more expensive. The finish is not quite as good as a proper coloured melamine as the finish is not quite as thick. It will be as resilient and moisture resistant as what you have in the main kitchen and is typically fine in a pantry setting though. Great explanation Chippy. Well explained. so it means my open pantry will be just a carcass in white melamine in particle board (high moisture resistant) without door. good to know its resilient one. bec its pantry i am not bothering about finishing and want to spend the extra money on other items. hope it will lost longer Pulse is correct. It's the trap that takes up space. 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