Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Apr 24, 2024 1:47 pm Hi All Hoping someone can help me with this worry. I'm in the process of an new build, and unable to remove any of the trees in my neighbors lot (due to heritage listing). Right on the fence line, biggest & worst tree is an Liquidambar styraciflua (Sweet Gum) over 20M tall. Due to this, I even had to import fill for the build. since unable to cut in the TPZ/RPZ. My question is whats the best type of slab or any precautions required for the slab, in the event of that tree dying/removed. Will the roots cause and damages thought out the slabs lifespan? TIA. Re: Tree Worries. 2Apr 30, 2024 8:00 am That tree species appears to have one of the more aggressive root systems and is listed as causing pipe and foundation damage. You'd need to speak with an arborist and structural engineer. All for saving the environment but how can it be fair to you when the neighbour sticks a tree with invasive roots right on your boundary, and you then have to allow them your land for it to grow on, spend more money to work around the tree to make use of the land you paid good money for in a period where there is national housing crisis. Re: Tree Worries. 3May 01, 2024 4:27 am Sleepless Knights Hi All Hoping someone can help me with this worry. I'm in the process of an new build, and unable to remove any of the trees in my neighbors lot (due to heritage listing). Right on the fence line, biggest & worst tree is an Liquidambar styraciflua (Sweet Gum) over 20M tall. Due to this, I even had to import fill for the build. since unable to cut in the TPZ/RPZ. My question is whats the best type of slab or any precautions required for the slab, in the event of that tree dying/removed. Will the roots cause and damages thought out the slabs lifespan? TIA. This is a really good question. I have 3 of those trees ( liquid amber ) at the front of my house. And yes the roots are very aggressive and my driveway has lifted 40-50mm in 4.5 years. I would guess that a raft slab might be best, as they can tolerate movement. I don't want to advocate cutting the tree roots at your boundary after being fined $13,000 last year for accidently cutting some roots that were too close to a basement, Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Tree Worries. 4May 01, 2024 7:41 am Ashington Homes Sleepless Knights Hi All Hoping someone can help me with this worry. I'm in the process of an new build, and unable to remove any of the trees in my neighbors lot (due to heritage listing). Right on the fence line, biggest & worst tree is an Liquidambar styraciflua (Sweet Gum) over 20M tall. Due to this, I even had to import fill for the build. since unable to cut in the TPZ/RPZ. My question is whats the best type of slab or any precautions required for the slab, in the event of that tree dying/removed. Will the roots cause and damages thought out the slabs lifespan? TIA. This is a really good question. I have 3 of those trees ( liquid amber ) at the front of my house. And yes the roots are very aggressive and my driveway has lifted 40-50mm in 4.5 years. I would guess that a raft slab might be best, as they can tolerate movement. I don't want to advocate cutting the tree roots at your boundary after being fined $13,000 last year for accidently cutting some roots that were too close to a basement, My arborist did say the tree is matured and roots a pretty deep & established. I will have to ask my builder if a raft slab is on the table as they mostly do waffle pods. Re: Tree Worries. 5May 01, 2024 8:11 am Sleepless Knights Ashington Homes Sleepless Knights Hi All Hoping someone can help me with this worry. I'm in the process of an new build, and unable to remove any of the trees in my neighbors lot (due to heritage listing). Right on the fence line, biggest & worst tree is an Liquidambar styraciflua (Sweet Gum) over 20M tall. Due to this, I even had to import fill for the build. since unable to cut in the TPZ/RPZ. My question is whats the best type of slab or any precautions required for the slab, in the event of that tree dying/removed. Will the roots cause and damages thought out the slabs lifespan? TIA. This is a really good question. I have 3 of those trees ( liquid amber ) at the front of my house. And yes the roots are very aggressive and my driveway has lifted 40-50mm in 4.5 years. I would guess that a raft slab might be best, as they can tolerate movement. I don't want to advocate cutting the tree roots at your boundary after being fined $13,000 last year for accidently cutting some roots that were too close to a basement, My arborist did say the tree is matured and roots a pretty deep & established. I will have to ask my builder if a raft slab is on the table as they mostly do waffle pods. Good idea and get them to check with their structural engineer as well Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Tree Worries. 6May 01, 2024 2:16 pm A raft slab still needs to cut roots for the trenches of the concrete edge beams and typically these beams can go 500mm or more deep. I have seen arborist reports within planning applications online where they specified concrete bored piers or screw piles to "bridge" a waffle slab over the roots. The rationale is less roots get cut, but that would depend on the species of tree if its possible to do. Re: Tree Worries. 7May 01, 2024 2:56 pm stefcep A raft slab still needs to cut roots for the trenches of the concrete edge beams and typically these beams can go 500mm or more deep. I have seen arborist reports within planning applications online where they specified concrete bored piers or screw piles to "bridge" a waffle slab over the roots. The rationale is less roots get cut, but that would depend on the species of tree if its possible to do. yes council and arborists don't like cutting roots Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Tree Worries. 8May 01, 2024 3:51 pm Ashington Homes Sleepless Knights Hi All Hoping someone can help me with this worry. I'm in the process of an new build, and unable to remove any of the trees in my neighbors lot (due to heritage listing). Right on the fence line, biggest & worst tree is an Liquidambar styraciflua (Sweet Gum) over 20M tall. Due to this, I even had to import fill for the build. since unable to cut in the TPZ/RPZ. My question is whats the best type of slab or any precautions required for the slab, in the event of that tree dying/removed. Will the roots cause and damages thought out the slabs lifespan? TIA. This is a really good question. I have 3 of those trees ( liquid amber ) at the front of my house. And yes the roots are very aggressive and my driveway has lifted 40-50mm in 4.5 years. I would guess that a raft slab might be best, as they can tolerate movement. I don't want to advocate cutting the tree roots at your boundary after being fined $13,000 last year for accidently cutting some roots that were too close to a basement, "accidentally"? i always wonder how fines like this go to solving the issue. Re: Tree Worries. 9May 02, 2024 9:50 pm Sleepless Knights Hi All Hoping someone can help me with this worry. I'm in the process of an new build, and unable to remove any of the trees in my neighbors lot (due to heritage listing). Right on the fence line, biggest & worst tree is an Liquidambar styraciflua (Sweet Gum) over 20M tall. Due to this, I even had to import fill for the build. since unable to cut in the TPZ/RPZ. My question is whats the best type of slab or any precautions required for the slab, in the event of that tree dying/removed. Will the roots cause and damages thought out the slabs lifespan? TIA. It's not the roots themselves it's the effect they have on soil moisture. You should have bored piers or screw piles to stop slab settlement. If the trees are removed after construction then you can get slab heave off the piers/piles. If your soil is highly reactive then this can be a problem but if it is less reactive then it will be less likely for the slab to heave off the piers. Re: Tree Worries. 10May 03, 2024 4:38 am ponzutwo Ashington Homes Sleepless Knights Hi All Hoping someone can help me with this worry. I'm in the process of an new build, and unable to remove any of the trees in my neighbors lot (due to heritage listing). Right on the fence line, biggest & worst tree is an Liquidambar styraciflua (Sweet Gum) over 20M tall. Due to this, I even had to import fill for the build. since unable to cut in the TPZ/RPZ. My question is whats the best type of slab or any precautions required for the slab, in the event of that tree dying/removed. Will the roots cause and damages thought out the slabs lifespan? TIA. This is a really good question. I have 3 of those trees ( liquid amber ) at the front of my house. And yes the roots are very aggressive and my driveway has lifted 40-50mm in 4.5 years. I would guess that a raft slab might be best, as they can tolerate movement. I don't want to advocate cutting the tree roots at your boundary after being fined $13,000 last year for accidently cutting some roots that were too close to a basement, "accidentally"? i always wonder how fines like this go to solving the issue. Ponzutwo All right, you called me out with the word "accidentally" but on the other hand it wasn't deliberate either on our part. It was more of a case of a dumb excavator operator who should have stopped when he encountered a large root that was coming from a big gum tree, but instead kept going and chopped through a few roots. There is actually a process you need to employ which involves an arborist, some special careful cutting and some type of tree bandages and hugs and kisses for the tree if you encounter roots. Ripping them with an excavator definitely is not a go to method for tree lovers. Fast forward a few days, there is a old retired neighbour who just hates the fact that their neighbour is building a home. I kid you not, we got a stop work order during demolition when one of the labourers took of his mask for a cigarette and he called work cover. Anyway, Lane Cove Council get called, we have a meeting onsite with 9 people, Council are telling us that we have killed a child ( they literally said that - we cut the arms and legs off a child) we get a stop work order, have to get an arborist report they say . Council refuse the first report which says the tree is fine, as this guy had beaten them in court previously, get a second one (this one says the tree can't be saved and is in imminent danger of falling on the neighbours house). Council orders this 70 year old massive gum tree to be cut down over one tree root, we get 3 fines, owner gets two fines. Work was on hold for months. We get ordered to plant 5 new trees to replace the one they lost. It was quite an experience. We are definitely taking more care around trees from now on! Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Building Standards; Getting It Right! I found https://treenet.org/resource/tree-prote ... -it-right/ which states if tpz encroachment is greater than 30% then do not proceed. My question then is, is this… 1 14276 Fellow Perth dweller. Looks like pruns nigra. It's a dark leaf flowering plum. Doesn't get massive and is easily trimmed deciduous tree. Very popular in small gardens in Perth 7 10944 Hi setsquare Same situation here. I would like very much to know if you have already found out the resolution and what the resolution was ? Thanks leaps. 7 34859 |