Browse Forums Flooring & Floor Covering 1 Oct 28, 2007 5:33 pm We've picked the Eternity Lake Derwent carpet based on it being available in a dark grey, solution dyed twist pile and rated Residential Heavy Duty.
It has 15 year guarantees etc, though I am not really sure how much they mean. http://www.eternitycarpet.com.au/range/ It's $159 /blm fully laid. Anyone have any input? Re: Eternity from Carpet Choice, good? 2Oct 28, 2007 7:16 pm The 15 year guarantee is a sales ploy, and doesn't have much to do with serviceability!
The carpet will perform OK, but you will find the pile crushing in the traffic ways, and the resulting texture change will make these areas look different to untrafficked areas. Yeah, it has good stain resistance, but it ain't anywhere near as fantastic as the sales pitch suggests. Forgot the crap advice they give that you can or should use chlorine bleach on it. That is irresponsible nonsense (to put it mildly). What rooms or areas is it to go into? Ash. Re: Eternity from Carpet Choice, good? 3Oct 28, 2007 8:09 pm Thanks
What would be a better choice? Theatre, hall to bedrooms (not main entrance one) and bedrooms Re: Eternity from Carpet Choice, good? 4Oct 28, 2007 9:59 pm Hi Parker,
You have chosen the carpet because YOU like it, and that's what matters really. What is best depends on all sorts of criteria, and the type of living environment that it is to be installed into. Chances are that anything I may suggest as an alternative will cost more. One possible alternative within budget might be a stain release nylon (not solution dyed) like Stainmaster series. The main difference you would find is the SDN has a harder, more course hand to it, and less resilience, whereas the SR nylon will be softer and more resilient. The downside is they don't have quite the level of stain resistance as the SDN. Not sure if that helps. Ash. Re: Eternity from Carpet Choice, good? 5Oct 29, 2007 12:47 pm Ash, since you are the resident expert on carpet. Just a couple of questions for you, of what to look for when selecting a carpet that might help the fellow users:
1. What would be the minimum gauge that we should consider for the average home - say for use in bedrooms, lounge, rumpus rooms etc? 2. Is 100% wool better than 100% nylon or blends for longevity? 3. Is nylon better than everything else for stain removal? 4. Are darker colours in carpet more inclined to fade in direct light than lighter colours? Thanks Re: Eternity from Carpet Choice, good? 6Oct 30, 2007 10:26 am Hi Phoenix,
Any floorcovering should be chosen carefully for the specific service in which it is expected to perform. It's not easy to offer general advice that is always applicable, but I'll try to answer your points... 1. By 'gauge' I guess you mean the overall thickness of the carpet. In general terms, I suggest to buy lower profile, but dense pile carpets. Some folk like thick soft pile carpet because it feels luxurious. But these ultimately settle in traffic ways, creating valleys, and have a lot more room to collect and hold dust etc within the pile. 2. Not necessarily. All types of yarn used in carpets have their individual strengths and weaknesses. For example... Wool is superior in many ways, including resilience, fire resistance, insulating qualities, appearance retention etc, etc. But wool requires more respect and care, as it is readily damaged by incorrect chemicals, and is more absorbant than synthetics, so can accept liquids and stain if not properly cleaned up. If cared for well, it can last many years and remain beautiful literally until it wears out. Nylon yarns have evolved, and have various qualities that make them a popular choice, especially with young families. They generally have good resilience and stain resistance, and are less chemical sensitive than wool. Polypropylene (also called olefin) is a cheaper yarn that is used in many lower cost carpets. It is a plastic yarn with almost no absorbency, so has excellent stain resistance, BUT performs poorly in many ways. It has poor resilience, is very heat sensitive and is oil loving, (so it soils rapidly in oily environments) It is often put into cheap rental properties. Other yarns such as polyester and acrylic are quite uncommon these days. There are literally thousands of choices when it comes to carpets, and there are many varieties beyond the type of face yarn. There are blends, different types of construction, colours, shades, weights, styles, backing materials, methods of installation, etc, etc, etc. It pays to do your homework before buying, (and source reliable advice that far too often does NOT come from carpet salesmen). I normally suggest paying more for a quality installation, than the mediocre carpets that are so common these days, but that's just me! Ash. Re: Eternity from Carpet Choice, good? 7Oct 30, 2007 11:04 am Continued...
3. Is nylon better than everything else for stain removal? Not really. This is a complex matter. Often carpets are marketed with STAIN RESISTANCE being a big selling point. In most cases, what is presented are half truths, based upon the absorbency of the face yarns, and have little bearing on the overall appearance retention of the carpet. For example, polypropylene yarn has about 0.01% moisture regain (or absorbancy) so theoretically, it virtually cannot be stained. BUT, it has many other properties that mean it will probably be on the rubbish tip before it's 12th birthday. In many cases they have a jute secondary backing that holds most spills and contamination and keeps wicking back to the surface. Anything sticky or oily in the carpet will cause spots to recur. So, its inherent stain resistant is immaterial. (NOTE, there's a difference between SPOTS & STAINS) At the other end of the spectrum, wool is highly absorbent, and so, spills containing dyes, food colours etc can penetrate into the yarn and STAIN it. So in theory, it has the greatest ability to stain. But in reality, wool has properties that mean a spill (IF MANAGED PROPERLY & SWIFTLY) will be held at or near the surface due to wool's surface tension, and be blotted & cleaned away easily. I have wool carpets at home, and no stains, despite having 2 typical boys that have grown up in the home over the last 10 years. Accidents are swiftly and properly cleaned up at the time. So, in a nutshell, forget all the nonsense about stain resistance. No carpet will look good or withstand abuse, through ignorance or poor or inappropriate maintenance 4. Are darker colours in carpet more inclined to fade in direct light than lighter colours? Sunlight can ultimately damage carpets FULLSTOP! Avoid having sunlight directly on the carpet through windows etc. Some darker colours are prone to colour loss through UV light, but also abrasive wear and chemical damage. It is not uncommon (where cheap inexperienced carpet cleaners are used) to find colour loss (especially in nylons) due to inappropriate chemicals being used or left in the carpets. Many household chemicals such as bleaches, peroxides, window cleaners, spray & wipe, sugar soap etc) can cause local colour loss too. Ash. Thank you. Do I use timber floorboards for stairs or do people use timber treads? Or is both the same? 6 9641 I’ve tried this myself and found that it can really elevate the look of a room, especially when you’re working with timber floors. 1 8598 Hello We are in final stages of signing contract for a two story house in inner north Brisbane , just having hard time deciding flooring for upstairs bedrooms whether to… 0 2169 |