Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jul 19, 2023 3:53 pm Hi All, I am currently in dispute with my builder, and need some advice on my position, legalities, and where I stand and what to do to protect myself. I will keep this post brief and as technical as possible, all information below is accurate and true. 1. Fixed priced contract just under $1m for construction, which includes allowances for some areas. 2. It's been ~18 months since construction started and we are still only at starting internal fitout stage. 3. Builder has received all progress payments except for final 10%. 4. Builder has had several issues with delays on is end due to his trades (issues, availability, etc). 5. There are several variations outstanding totalling ~$30k which we were told could paid whenever we had the funds available. 6. A few weeks ago builder abruptly stopped communicating with us, stopped work, and wrote a letter with demands that; - All construction has been immediately suspended (no forewarning or prior discussion about this). - We must sign and pay all outstanding variations within 10 days, and work will not resume until everything is paid in full. - Builder sent replacement variations and advised us to disregard previously agreed (but not signed) variations, increasing them from ~30k to ~80k with many items we never discussed/agreed on and added margins we never agreed on. - Passed all blame to us for the construction delays advising we took to long to make internal selections, and as a result has advised we are now liable to pay for ALL current and future trade price increases for fixed price components, as well as temporary fence, toilet, and other site hire costs. Simply untrue and was a complete shock to us since many of the selections were simply things like colors, and profiling for joinery, etc which were not needed until production would begin which in fact we are still waiting on builder to provide layout/drawings for... So, currently the construction end date on the contract is ~5 months overdue, which he is not taking any responsibility for. He has suspended works and is holding us at ransom to pay for variations that are grossly inflated and never agreed on or signed for. And is passing all current and future cost increases to us (unknown figures). Refuses to communicate or negotiate with us, and we have no choice now other than seeking legal advice, claiming against icare, and lodging a dispute through fair trading. I genuinely feel the builder has misappropriated our funding and used it to bankroll other construction sites, and due to covid losses is trying to pass the buck to us to cover his losses even though its a fixed price contract through inflating variations we never agreed to. We have funding to pay for outstanding originally agreed variations, but fear he is operating insolvent and will simply take our payments and declare bankruptcy and we can never retrieve that money. How can a builder with 90% of the progress payments in hand not be able to complete the home to even fitout stage, and declare he has no money and wants his variations paid when he never asked previously? Furthermore, how can ~$30k worth of outstanding variations cause all of the above and put a stop to work on a ~$1m build - sounds to me like there is more going on that this issue of variations and this builder has the telltale signs of going bust. Should I lodge a dispute with Fair Trading, notify iCare insurance provider, and what about notifying my bank about this - will they investigate him and put a halt on his licence to not be able to resume work on other sites? What can I / should I do and how do I protect myself, more importantly can the builder legally be allowed to stop construction and demand payment for variations or is he in breach of his obligations/agreement to build this home. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 3Jul 19, 2023 4:09 pm ponzutwo speak to a lawyer. Only advice you should listen to right now. Thanks, yeah I have a lawyer and they have reached out to the builder over a week ago to sit down and amicably resolve/negotiate the issue but the builder will not reply to them at all… Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 4Jul 19, 2023 4:14 pm Only advice I can offer is to document everything. Every call you make, even if unanswered, every discussion you have, write down notes either during or immediately afterwards, and save them. In terms of what to say/do, yeah, follow the lawyer's advice. Good luck! Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 5Jul 19, 2023 11:20 pm At some point you will need a good building consultant to work thru the mess and do the things your lawyer can't. But there are some questions Why did you pay 90% when the work wasn't done to that stage?. Why did you not read your contract and follow variation protocol? Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 6Jul 21, 2023 9:36 am building-expert Why did you pay 90% when the work wasn't done to that stage?. Why did you not read your contract and follow variation protocol? Thanks for your reply, appreciate your input here as an expert in the field. Was asked to by builder, advised needed funds to continue works and kept pushing me. As far variations we did follow contract and have previously paid several variations in full, it was just the most recent ones where we were advised we could pay them later at any time we like. Thank you Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 7Jul 21, 2023 2:45 pm agent0387 Was asked to by builder, advised needed funds to continue works and kept pushing me. this was your first red flag. Im surprised your bank released funds to be honest. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 8Jul 21, 2023 2:46 pm Just to add to the above, contract stipulates variations would be added to contract total and due upon next progress payment. The builder never followed the contract protocol and did not do this, rather he simply told us pay them when you can. Further, previous variation that have been paid never included 20% builders margin, however new variations that have not been agreed on or signed for (yet works carried out) have a 20% margin added. Had we been advised of this we would have never proceeded with any of these variations. Placing the construction on suspension and holding us at ransom to pay these unsigned and never agreed for variation costs is shocking and I would like to know if he has breached his contractual obligations by doing so. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 9Jul 21, 2023 2:47 pm ponzutwo agent0387 Was asked to by builder, advised needed funds to continue works and kept pushing me. this was your first red flag. Im surprised your bank released funds to be honest. You know banks, never do inspections other than slab and then at practical completion. they should really be doing more before releasing such large amounts. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 10Jul 21, 2023 6:29 pm agent0387 ponzutwo this was your first red flag. Im surprised your bank released funds to be honest. You know banks, never do inspections other than slab and then at practical completion. they should really be doing more before releasing such large amounts. i thought they only do the final, i don't think mine did slab. but my payment authorisation form had a declaration to confirm that the works have actually been completed for that stage, so if i said 'yes' and they weren't, i would be committing a crime that starts with a letter 'f' and for some reason forum is not allowing me to mention Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 11Jul 21, 2023 6:38 pm strannik agent0387 ponzutwo this was your first red flag. Im surprised your bank released funds to be honest. You know banks, never do inspections other than slab and then at practical completion. they should really be doing more before releasing such large amounts. i thought they only do the final, i don't think mine did slab. but my payment authorisation form had a declaration to confirm that the works have actually been completed for that stage, so if i said 'yes' and they weren't, i would be committing a crime that starts with a letter 'f' and for some reason forum is not allowing me to mention While I understand your point of view, I don’t exactly agree. Clients aren’t builders and not privy to trade practices or long winded clauses and contracts, yes some responsibility lays with the client but really there should be laws put in place to ensure these key elements are scrutinised and followed properly. A BIG part of the responsibility also is with the lenders and banks who give out loans with their eyes closed and make payments for large invoices and progress payments without nothing but a phone call or email. Australia’s building industry is in dire failings and with Covid, inflation, and a flurry of d word builders there needs to be reforms to protect both consumers and builders from their own catastrophic failures. There is an unprecedented level of insolvency and bankruptcy amongst the industry and the governments needs to step in and do something about it, enough is enough. We are talking about people’s livelihoods here. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 12Jul 22, 2023 9:46 am You don't have to be a builder to check if the work you're paying for has been completed. It's pretty easy to see whether the slab is there or not, the frame is there, etc. No regulation is going to help if the clients simply ignore it and hand over the money. And if the clients don't understand the contract - that's why those contracts have a warning to go and get independent legal advice. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 13Jul 22, 2023 6:27 pm agent0387 strannik agent0387 You know banks, never do inspections other than slab and then at practical completion. they should really be doing more before releasing such large amounts. i thought they only do the final, i don't think mine did slab. but my payment authorisation form had a declaration to confirm that the works have actually been completed for that stage, so if i said 'yes' and they weren't, i would be committing a crime that starts with a letter 'f' and for some reason forum is not allowing me to mention While I understand your point of view, I don’t exactly agree. Clients aren’t builders and not privy to trade practices or long winded clauses and contracts, yes some responsibility lays with the client but really there should be laws put in place to ensure these key elements are scrutinised and followed properly. A BIG part of the responsibility also is with the lenders and banks who give out loans with their eyes closed and make payments for large invoices and progress payments without nothing but a phone call or email. Australia’s building industry is in dire failings and with Covid, inflation, and a flurry of d word builders there needs to be reforms to protect both consumers and builders from their own catastrophic failures. There is an unprecedented level of insolvency and bankruptcy amongst the industry and the governments needs to step in and do something about it, enough is enough. We are talking about people’s livelihoods here. I love how you waver between accepting some responsibility and the in the same sentence putting that responsibility on other parties than yourself. Fact is, your builder effed you, and you let it happen despite red flags all over the place that are visible to any reasonable person. Your only course of avenue here is through your lawyer. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 14Jul 22, 2023 8:18 pm Thanks for stating the obvious, very productive member of the forum you must be. Your useless input is greatly appreciated, find another thread to post your toxicity. Have a great day =) Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 17Jul 23, 2023 9:42 am agent0387 Thanks for stating the obvious, very productive member of the forum you must be. Your useless input is greatly appreciated, find another thread to post your toxicity. Have a great day =) Lol, See, deflecting again. Hard to accept you fd up, huh? Good luck with your predicament buddy 👍 Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 18Jul 23, 2023 11:19 am ponzutwo agent0387 Thanks for stating the obvious, very productive member of the forum you must be. Your useless input is greatly appreciated, find another thread to post your toxicity. Have a great day =) Lol, See, deflecting again. Hard to accept you fd up, huh? Good luck with your predicament buddy 👍 Useless reply, why even bother? Find another thread to post to troll on. Every forum has toxic trolls. Lol we need special badges for people like you. Nothing interesting going for you, must be boring being you. I bet your fun at parties =) Enjoy the day pops Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 19Jul 24, 2023 1:25 pm If you were in Victoria I would tell you that if your builder has not followed statutory and contract protocol in relation to variations then the builder is not entitled to be paid for those variations. As for money paid already, it is your fault for paying for work that is not done, suck it up. Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 20Jul 24, 2023 2:36 pm agent0387 Useless reply, why even bother? Find another thread to post to troll on. Every forum has toxic trolls. Lol we need special badges for people like you. Nothing interesting going for you, must be boring being you. I bet your fun at parties =) Enjoy the day pops hahahahah mate.... 4 houses built, no issues. 3 returning decent yield and the forever home is beautiful. You got stooged on your first one and its unlikley this will end well for you. Enjoy the day indeed Sorry to hear. 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