Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Framing inspection 4Feb 10, 2022 2:37 pm Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Framing inspection 7Feb 10, 2022 4:35 pm Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Framing inspection 17Feb 15, 2022 5:19 pm BuildingandLegal First You can't withhold money when a valid claim has been made, because you think works aren't complete or you don't think they look right. Otherwise YOU are in breach of contract. You can challenge that the works have not reached a particular stage, which throws the issue back to the builder to confirm. The Frame & Truss/s inclusive tiedown & bracing is a mandatory inspection! Enclosed is NOT! Stick frame or Prefab it makes NO difference must be inspected prior to the next phase of construction commencing! To avoid any confusion VBA - Practice Note 69 2018 Mandatory notification stages and inspection of building work Prescribed Mandatory Notification Stages Prescribed mandatory notification stages are specified for the following types of building work: • the construction of a new building or alteration to an existing building (regulation 167); • the demolition or removal of a building (regulation 168; • the construction of a swimming pool or spa (regulation 169). For construction of a new building or alterations to an existing building, the prescribed stages are: • before placing a footing; • before pouring an insitu reinforced concrete member that is specified in the relevant building permit by the RBS; • completion of framework; • inspection of fire and smoke resisting building elements as required under regulation 172; • final, on completion of all building work. Note * completion of framework, after roof is installed, paper is on and bricks are laid is not listed as an option. The inspection is to confirm the frame is not overhanging the slab, the termite treatment is installed and correctly installed, the tiedown of the frame to the slab is correctly spaced, and of the correct size, that there are no defects/damage to the frame, that the bracing is installed and the correct nail spacings have been achieved, that the frames & trusses are plumb, that the wall/truss L brackets are installed and are not binding, that the speed bracing is fixed, installed and continuous, that the trusses are tied to the frame. Just because it's a Pre-Fab (an engineered system) doesn't mean that it was installed on site correctly. As your builder or certifier for the certificate of inspection, if they say "its all good" ask them for were the VBA Practice Note advises a Frame Inspection can be completed at enclose stage. Id say wrong because we stopped paying any invoices because of defects, and because stage was not completed should never have invoice ustill the problem was rectified, when weas the client keep builders in business they continue to cut corners where ever they can, and VBA honstlyive complained tothem i dont know how many times they did nothing about it 6 years leter VBA still done nothing. Unfortunately the only thing buildefs understands is legal action against them, they know majority of people cannot fight them legally at vcat builders cotinue to build defects into homes, the biggest wank was allowing waffle pod slab to be used. End of my rant. Re: Framing inspection 18Feb 16, 2022 5:35 am Beetroot_Juice When should the framing inspectoin happen? The builder has invoice me and my undrestanding that the framing is a critical stage ( hold point) and has to be inspected before the external cladding and roof was build. The builder however insist framing inspection won't happen untill roof and brickwork is completed and engineers framing certificate will be available later during the construction. What if there are defects in the frame, structural load points, tie downs, quality, bracing, layout etc.... Beetroot Just too close this topic out, yesterday I double checked with another certifier we use and he confirmed that most certifiers want to see these frames loaded before inspection. I personally think this is a flawed way to do it, a quick example was in 2015 I was on a job site and the plumbers had used a hammer to smash a massive hole through the bracing ply to run their services. Brickwork was already completed so the only way to fix it was to install new bracing ply on the inside and then pack out the gyprock. This is a complete pain of a process so my guess is if a supervisor saw this on a project home site it would be quickly covered over and not rectified. Perhaps this might go someway to explain how flawed many of the new builds are. Let me know if you want a copy of AS1680 ( the timber framing code) so you can educate yourself and do your own inspection. EDIT: So I double checked the wording that they issue in NSW with the approvals which describes every mandatory inspection stage and for framing it says "Structural timber roof, walls and framing inspection prior to lining the roof, walls and floor". so there you go. Cheers Simeon Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Framing inspection 19Feb 16, 2022 8:13 am It's not just frame that's flawed but trusses as well not to wind rating. Just a small example we built on the Bellarine Surfcoast 500 metres from the port Phillip bay wind rating should have been rated at N2 or N3 due to n out built up town and it's also coastal town where the wind blows very strong across the bay, our classification was N1 which is only for built up areas like the suburbs. When it comes to coastal towns it's a different wind rating so where our trusses built to withstand the strong winds I think not when we have storms and strong winds it feels like the roof is going to blow off, all our insualation is blown everywhere so not energy rating is none existent I had my head in manhole in October around 28th last year just after I had plumber trying to get into roof space to fix our ducted heating unit which he couldn't fix because no service platform or service light was fitted , that day I had the ladder inside the house left in the bathroom that night we got hit with strong storms wind rain in put my head inside the manhole at 1am I could feel light rain on my head. So guess my trusses are not built to the right wind rating because the noise I could hear was so scarry I thought the roof was going to take off, so did the building surveyor do his job to check if the engineering computation plans whete on site to check did he have the engineering computation plans for the trusses, I guess not when I complained the builder gave me the manufacturer computation how they built trusses but had no tie down no places where plates bolts or any other specifications that roof trusses should have, same with our slab. I won't go into details I am sure few experts on this forum remember my story which has been going on for 6 years now, with breach of vcat orders by the builder to date waiting to do something about as I write this post builders get away with everything absolutely everything nothing complies with the Australian building codes and standards and tolerance and still governments will not do anything about it. Re: Framing inspection 20Feb 16, 2022 8:41 am Mauromario It's not just frame that's flawed but trusses as well not to wind rating. Just a small example we built on the Bellarine Surfcoast 500 metres from the port Phillip bay wind rating should have been rated at N2 or N3 due to n out built up town and it's also coastal town where the wind blows very strong across the bay, our classification was N1 which is only for built up areas like the suburbs. When it comes to coastal towns it's a different wind rating so where our trusses built to withstand the strong winds I think not when we have storms and strong winds it feels like the roof is going to blow off, all our insualation is blown everywhere so not energy rating is none existent I had my head in manhole in October around 28th last year just after I had plumber trying to get into roof space to fix our ducted heating unit which he couldn't fix because no service platform or service light was fitted , that day I had the ladder inside the house left in the bathroom that night we got hit with strong storms wind rain in put my head inside the manhole at 1am I could feel light rain on my head. So guess my trusses are not built to the right wind rating because the noise I could hear was so scarry I thought the roof was going to take off, so did the building surveyor do his job to check if the engineering computation plans whete on site to check did he have the engineering computation plans for the trusses, I guess not when I complained the builder gave me the manufacturer computation how they built trusses but had no tie down no places where plates bolts or any other specifications that roof trusses should have, same with our slab. I won't go into details I am sure few experts on this forum remember my story which has been going on for 6 years now, with breach of vcat orders by the builder to date waiting to do something about as I write this post builders get away with everything absolutely everything nothing complies with the Australian building codes and standards and tolerance and still governments will not do anything about it. #notallbuilders lol Dark matter scientist, can breathe underwater, mind reader and can freeze matter just by willing it. Trust me, its in my sig. STEFF62 Framing should be fine, but he will only be able to nail the baseplates in, I wouldnt think you can dynabolt them after 24 hours. My question is, how is he… 1 5863 8 9923 Houses have been framed on floor joists since settlement, chipboard flooring is only around for 50 years or so, so why would it not be satisfactory? However exercise skill… 3 16843 |