Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Apr 10, 2010 10:01 am I had my 1st PCI yesterday and while I was half-satisfied with the explanation of a gas pipe inside a kitchen cupboard there and then, I kept thinking about it the whole night. I upgraded my standard oven and cook top to a freestanding one. The puzzling thing is that I would expect the gas pipe to reside on the wall behind the freestanding cooktop/oven but SS told me it is to be done inside the cupboard next to the freestanding cooktop/oven. I thought it was a stuff up, a mistake on the builder but SS insisted this is to make sure the freestanding cooktop/oven gets pushed to the sides of wall as much as possible. During appliances installation (after final payment), a hole will be drilled at side of cupboard to connect to freestanding cooktop I am not too keen on a gas pipe inside the cupboard, it's space wastage and ugly. The photo shows my cupboard and at the right hand side is the space for the freestanding cooktop, the gas pipe is at the right corner of the cupboard. Is my SS right? Anyone has similar experience? http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy81 ... G_8115.jpg http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy81 ... G_8116.jpg Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 2Apr 10, 2010 12:01 pm This is exactly what should happen and happens in any house. Our house has that and it allows you to pull the extra piping into the cupboard during installation rather than it being crushed at the back of the oven. It takes up minimal space in the cupboard and allows for the regulator to be installed and angled correctly once the oven is in. If you are worried about the look of it, use the cupboard and close the door? You have to be a bit realistic and can't expect everything to be completely hidden. So stop thinking about it and enjoy your new house Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 3Apr 10, 2010 4:10 pm Hi there, we have just renovated and installed a freestanding oven. Our plumbers advice was to put the gas fitting in the cupboard beside the oven too. It doesn't take up much space (not like a water pipe under the sink). I find that cupboard handy for oven trays - the fitting means they don't fall over! Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 4Apr 10, 2010 5:00 pm Thanks for the replies. I just came back from The Good Guys shopping for a dishwater and went to have a look at the freestanding cooktop with oven. I noticed the gas outlet and power supply are both at the back of the freestanding unit. The freestanding unit is going to be back up against a wall, the wall has a rectangular cavity (about the size of 2 handphones) for the power supply and I simply can't understand why the gas pipe can't use a cavity outlet from the same back wall. The gas pipe and the rectangular cavity are approx 40cm away from each other on the same level, just that the gas pipe is inside the cupboard and another hole is going to be drilled through the side of cupboard to connect to the back of gas outlet of the freestanding unit. I know there is a gas regulator to be angled, but I failed to see why it can't be angled w/in the stud wall of the cavity opening. I must be slow in understanding all this... Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 5Apr 10, 2010 5:23 pm I think you do have a point that it would be much neater if it was in behind the unit. From what I have seen the outlets are normally in the cupboard beside it. Quite possibly the plumber who installed the unit at Good Guys works to a better standard than the plumbers the builders use. I don't think the builder has done anything incorrect and as such if it were to be moved this could be done, but I can't see the builder paying for it. It would be worth asking the question though, but if you have already asked and they have refused, I don't think there is much you can do other than paying to have it moved... Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 6Apr 10, 2010 10:45 pm Hi, I have an upright cooker and the gas line is definitely at the back of it and not in any side cupboard. I would have been pretty annoyed if mine had of been done in a cupboard at the side and taken up precious cupboard space. Not sure but thought part of the issue a while back with the estate where they all had to move out because of the methane gas coming from an old tip site, was because of the gas building up in cupboards. Would have thought the potential for a gas leak inside the cupboard would be more dangerous than if it was behind the unit and could more freely dissipate throughout the house. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that any gas leak is good, but thought gas lines were to be avoided in enclosed spaces when there was an alternative. Maybe contact the plumbing association and see if you can get a definitive answer prior to your pci. Good luck and let us know how you go. Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 7Apr 11, 2010 2:32 pm For a cooker fitted in a top drawer with an oven below, the standard way of doing the piping is to have the gas pipe and regulators located in an adjoining cupboard. Since mine is a freestanding upright cooker, there should be 2 separate cavity spots on the wall, one for the gas pipe and the other one for the electrical point (there must be acceptable means to isolate the electrical power from gas appliances, as required by AS 5601, Gas Installations). It is so ******* to have a hole inside my cupboard for a gas pipe, worse still another hole is going to be drilled on the side when the upright cooker gets delivered. I am going to push for the gas pipe to be re-located to an adjacent spot on the wall just outside the cupboard. I want to stand my feet firmly on this and I know this might cause me precious time and delays in getting my keys. I know SS will also stand firm not to relocate it as it will dent profits, but why should I settle for LESS when I have paid more to upgrade to a upright cooker yet still get 2 holes in my cupboard. Will keep you guys posted on the outcome of this battle. Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 8Apr 14, 2010 6:38 pm I called up Technika and spoke with its service team to seek opinion, and was told that with a Bellissimo upright cooker it is OKAY to have the gas pipe in the wall cavity. I put my findings from Energy Safe Victoria, Technika and my firm stand that no handover if this issue not sorted in an email. End result, battle won! SS said he is looking to get the gas pipe relocated out of my cupboard. The downside is of course handover is going to be delayed, kitchen benchtop need to be taken out, patched, blah blah blah. Anyway I can wait! Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 11Apr 15, 2010 8:08 pm well done - i would be ** off with this too. IMHO it would look cheap and nasty. We are having pot draws besides our freestanding cooker so I would guess that they can only come from within the wall Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 12Apr 15, 2010 9:34 pm Lunchtime well done - i would be ** off with this too. IMHO it would look cheap and nasty. We are having pot draws besides our freestanding cooker so I would guess that they can only come from within the wall Why would it look cheap and nasty? It's inside a cupboard where it can't be seen.... it's the standard way to install upright cookers and ours is done that way. Our old gas cooktop, with pot drawers underneath was done the same way too. Re: Gas pipe in cupboard for freestanding upright cooker & o 13Apr 13, 2021 5:16 am The gas pipe should run along the back of the base units, this is why the units are built with a void in the back, to scribe to the wall and to accept services and pipe work, the only reason the gas fitters come into the unit is because it easier for them, simple as that, no other reason, all pipes can be chased into the wall or surface fixed and units cut to suit... work smarter not harder.. I’ve been a joiner and kitchen fitter for 30 years and I have only come across this once.. today... bone idle gas fitters.. 2 15463 Bathroom renovation will likely include a back-to-corner bath and we’re considering a freestanding tap with hand-held shower such as the picture included. My hesitation… 0 24692 DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair Grind texture and paint off at blister up to top of fence Will see damp cement render 5 6266 |