Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Suggestion with Hebel Construction 4Jul 19, 2021 10:18 am NathanPS We’ve got hebel and I don’t mind it. Have lived in a brick house before too and can’t really say there’s much difference if at all. Hi NathanPS, Was there a difference in cost between brick and hebel? Would you be able to indicate what % difference there was? Thanks, Re: Suggestion with Hebel Construction 5Jul 19, 2021 12:57 pm Most of the ppl here are talking about replacing brick veneer with Hebel panels on the timber frame and not building with Hebel blocks frameless. Hebel blocks are breathing and at 250+ mm do not require extra insulation to comply with 2.8R for the walls. They also have thermal mass and they are much better than even double brick when it gets to noise/sound transmission insulation. The main issues are a) they have to be rendered both from inside and outside; b) they are quite fragile, so will require special fixing systems when you decide to attach something to the wall (standard won't simply work). It is also recommended to use special aeroconcrete glue to attach blocks together instead of standard cement based mortar. Re: Suggestion with Hebel Construction 6Jul 19, 2021 2:05 pm jaguarpaw NathanPS We’ve got hebel and I don’t mind it. Have lived in a brick house before too and can’t really say there’s much difference if at all. Hi NathanPS, Was there a difference in cost between brick and hebel? Would you be able to indicate what % difference there was? Thanks, I can’t comment exactly as our builder uses Hebel as standard so there was really no cost allocation against this, I would estimate based on other quotes we got for the price to not be much different to your standard brick construction. Re: Suggestion with Hebel Construction 7Jul 20, 2021 6:16 am alexp79 Most of the ppl here are talking about replacing brick veneer with Hebel panels on the timber frame and not building with Hebel blocks frameless. Hebel blocks are breathing and at 250+ mm do not require extra insulation to comply with 2.8R for the walls. They also have thermal mass and they are much better than even double brick when it gets to noise/sound transmission insulation. The main issues are a) they have to be rendered both from inside and outside; b) they are quite fragile, so will require special fixing systems when you decide to attach something to the wall (standard won't simply work). It is also recommended to use special aeroconcrete glue to attach blocks together instead of standard cement based mortar. Hi Big Brain Alex I hope you are well buddy. I just wanted to ask what you meant in your post by rendering Hebel inside and out? We have never done this and I have double checked the powerwall installation instructions and I couldn't see that requirement. Also the way that it fixes to the battens when they intern fix over the top of the wrap, I cant see how it would be possible to render it from the inside. This worries me as I know you are a building technology nerd and may have picked up on something we have missed. Or maybe I misread your post? PS hows your build going? Simeon Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Suggestion with Hebel Construction 8Jul 20, 2021 6:38 am jaguarpaw NathanPS We’ve got hebel and I don’t mind it. Have lived in a brick house before too and can’t really say there’s much difference if at all. Hi NathanPS, Was there a difference in cost between brick and hebel? Would you be able to indicate what % difference there was? Thanks, jaguarpaw Great name. Where we are, Hebel is about 20% cheaper than rendered commons. So for a typical house that we build that can equate to around $15-20,000. As a custom home builder there is no right or wrong answer in terms of what material to use, it really comes down to the situation and the customer's budget and preference. We do like to recommend Hebel in the flame zone situations as we find it is the easiest and and most cost effect material to get the FZ rating on. People's main drawback is strength or hanging items externally, but we treat it like any lightweight cladding and make sure that we install extra studs in areas that we know things like hose reels, and fire shutters will be installed so we have no problems later. I personally don't think you can make a direct comparison to bricks, but think of it more like an alternative to FC sheeting as the pricing is similar. But that is just my opinion and others may disagree. For me, rendered common bricks are superior, and then double bricks are better still, and core filled concrete bocks are even better, but it doesn't mean that anyone of those products is bad or doesn't perform well. It's just a budget thing. There are tens of thousands of weatherboard homes that are well over 100 years old and still standing strong. You just have to make sure you really focus on your insulation and getting your house wrap air tight. I hope this helps a little Cheers Simeon Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Suggestion with Hebel Construction 9Jul 20, 2021 12:42 pm Ashington Homes alexp79 Most of the ppl here are talking about replacing brick veneer with Hebel panels on the timber frame and not building with Hebel blocks frameless. Hebel blocks are breathing and at 250+ mm do not require extra insulation to comply with 2.8R for the walls. They also have thermal mass and they are much better than even double brick when it gets to noise/sound transmission insulation. The main issues are a) they have to be rendered both from inside and outside; b) they are quite fragile, so will require special fixing systems when you decide to attach something to the wall (standard won't simply work). It is also recommended to use special aeroconcrete glue to attach blocks together instead of standard cement based mortar. Hi Big Brain Alex I hope you are well buddy. I just wanted to ask what you meant in your post by rendering Hebel inside and out? We have never done this and I have double checked the powerwall installation instructions and I couldn't see that requirement. Also the way that it fixes to the battens when they intern fix over the top of the wrap, I cant see how it would be possible to render it from the inside. This worries me as I know you are a building technology nerd and may have picked up on something we have missed. Or maybe I misread your post? PS hows your build going? Simeon Hi Simeon, You only need to render (or better word to use - wet plaster) inside if you use Hebel masonry blocks (without framing), it is certainly not required for panels. My build has been restarted and almost immediately stopped due to current lockdown No the fireplace doesn’t work. It’s been enclosed. I’m not sure what was removed, as it was done quite some time ago - well before what I can see with photos online… 2 9119 I have a really long hallway which is 1100mm W x 11500mm L I would appreciate if anyone can give suggestions to light it up with Linear LED lights that goes from wall to… 0 5625 Thank for yes basically what to remove and what to add, where to place them 2 1171 |