Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Aug 21, 2020 9:14 am Hi everyone, Does anyone know how much to allow in our build budget for an in-ground concrete pool. Are there any costs outside of installation that we should be factoring in (apart from fencing and landscaping?) Also, any feedback regarding fibreglass v concrete pool would be great! Many thanks. Re: Budgeting for a pool 2Aug 21, 2020 1:36 pm build2020 Hi everyone, Does anyone know how much to allow in our build budget for an in-ground concrete pool. Are there any costs outside of installation that we should be factoring in (apart from fencing and landscaping?) Also, any feedback regarding fibreglass v concrete pool would be great! Many thanks. I'm embarking on a similar journey (as you know) and a few times I've been told that a ~8m x 4m pool will cost 80k to 100k. This takes into consideration pool, plumbing, tiling/decking, fencing, pump, cleaner, lighting, etc. Like everything, it depends on how far you're taking it. Happy to be corrected by someone who has completed something similar recently. A builder recently recommended to me to choose concrete over fiberglass and gave this response. Main pro's of concrete vs fibreglass:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a fibreglass pool by any means. Re: Budgeting for a pool 3Aug 21, 2020 4:10 pm build2020 Hi everyone, Does anyone know how much to allow in our build budget for an in-ground concrete pool. Are there any costs outside of installation that we should be factoring in (apart from fencing and landscaping?) Also, any feedback regarding fibreglass v concrete pool would be great! Many thanks. wow where do I start with this. We are doing a concrete pool with our build and the pool shell has gone in first due to its proximity to the house (300mm away) and the boundary fence (450mm away). As a result there is additional support required for the house and a pool cover needed during the build. The pool cover is about $5k for the length of the build. Our soil report indicated some surface water where the pool was going to go (back in January) and unfortunately when we dug we had cave in's and water running through. I haven't received the bill for the extra support / digging that was required as part of this yet, so unfortunately there is an element of unknown cost when you dig. We went with concrete due to the need to customise the pool shape as we have it wrapping around the dining room. In terms of cost from a concrete pool perspective: - Pool itself, including type of tiles you want (glass / ceramic, with glass being more expensive). Our pool is about 3.5 x 9 m2 and we had quotes anywhere from about $70k up to 100k. - Pool equipment / heating. Gas? Solar? Electric? Then depending on what you want, trenching and installing services to where the pool equipment needs to go. i.e. powerpoints, gas line etc. We went with the electric option and probably spent about $4k for equipment and services. - Plumbing connections, including sewer and if you want the auto top up feature. This is highly dependent on where you put the pool and what trenching is needed. Few hunderd to $1k? - Pool blanket? Again you could go the cheap roller option down one end for $500 or so? Or you could go a in trench option that isn't visible for $4-5k? - Pool fencing / paving / landscaping / coping etc - Again how long is a piece of string but at least $10k? - Pool clearning. Again a variety of options from a simple robot for about 2-3k to in floor cleaning at about $10k The only other point i'd make is, if you went fibreglass they have to crane it in and depending on your block type / access etc, there will be additional crane costs etc for that. That being said i'd fully expect a fibreglass pool to be overall cheaper than a concrete one. Hope that helps - but the moral of the story is, they aren't cheap! Re: Budgeting for a pool 4Aug 21, 2020 5:08 pm sifntdaz build2020 Hi everyone, Does anyone know how much to allow in our build budget for an in-ground concrete pool. Are there any costs outside of installation that we should be factoring in (apart from fencing and landscaping?) Also, any feedback regarding fibreglass v concrete pool would be great! Many thanks. wow where do I start with this. We are doing a concrete pool with our build and the pool shell has gone in first due to its proximity to the house (300mm away) and the boundary fence (450mm away). As a result there is additional support required for the house and a pool cover needed during the build. The pool cover is about $5k for the length of the build. Our soil report indicated some surface water where the pool was going to go (back in January) and unfortunately when we dug we had cave in's and water running through. I haven't received the bill for the extra support / digging that was required as part of this yet, so unfortunately there is an element of unknown cost when you dig. We went with concrete due to the need to customise the pool shape as we have it wrapping around the dining room. In terms of cost from a concrete pool perspective: - Pool itself, including type of tiles you want (glass / ceramic, with glass being more expensive). Our pool is about 3.5 x 9 m2 and we had quotes anywhere from about $70k up to 100k. - Pool equipment / heating. Gas? Solar? Electric? Then depending on what you want, trenching and installing services to where the pool equipment needs to go. i.e. powerpoints, gas line etc. We went with the electric option and probably spent about $4k for equipment and services. - Plumbing connections, including sewer and if you want the auto top up feature. This is highly dependent on where you put the pool and what trenching is needed. Few hunderd to $1k? - Pool blanket? Again you could go the cheap roller option down one end for $500 or so? Or you could go a in trench option that isn't visible for $4-5k? - Pool fencing / paving / landscaping / coping etc - Again how long is a piece of string but at least $10k? - Pool clearning. Again a variety of options from a simple robot for about 2-3k to in floor cleaning at about $10k The only other point i'd make is, if you went fibreglass they have to crane it in and depending on your block type / access etc, there will be additional crane costs etc for that. That being said i'd fully expect a fibreglass pool to be overall cheaper than a concrete one. Hope that helps - but the moral of the story is, they aren't cheap! Hi sifntdaz, we encountered surface water too in the month of June and we couldn't proceed with the pool and it's been postponed to after the build during summer months. I am keen to know how you overcame the surface water issue? Re: Budgeting for a pool 5Aug 21, 2020 5:43 pm BigDaddy sifntdaz build2020 Hi everyone, Does anyone know how much to allow in our build budget for an in-ground concrete pool. Are there any costs outside of installation that we should be factoring in (apart from fencing and landscaping?) Also, any feedback regarding fibreglass v concrete pool would be great! Many thanks. wow where do I start with this. We are doing a concrete pool with our build and the pool shell has gone in first due to its proximity to the house (300mm away) and the boundary fence (450mm away). As a result there is additional support required for the house and a pool cover needed during the build. The pool cover is about $5k for the length of the build. Our soil report indicated some surface water where the pool was going to go (back in January) and unfortunately when we dug we had cave in's and water running through. I haven't received the bill for the extra support / digging that was required as part of this yet, so unfortunately there is an element of unknown cost when you dig. We went with concrete due to the need to customise the pool shape as we have it wrapping around the dining room. In terms of cost from a concrete pool perspective: - Pool itself, including type of tiles you want (glass / ceramic, with glass being more expensive). Our pool is about 3.5 x 9 m2 and we had quotes anywhere from about $70k up to 100k. - Pool equipment / heating. Gas? Solar? Electric? Then depending on what you want, trenching and installing services to where the pool equipment needs to go. i.e. powerpoints, gas line etc. We went with the electric option and probably spent about $4k for equipment and services. - Plumbing connections, including sewer and if you want the auto top up feature. This is highly dependent on where you put the pool and what trenching is needed. Few hunderd to $1k? - Pool blanket? Again you could go the cheap roller option down one end for $500 or so? Or you could go a in trench option that isn't visible for $4-5k? - Pool fencing / paving / landscaping / coping etc - Again how long is a piece of string but at least $10k? - Pool clearning. Again a variety of options from a simple robot for about 2-3k to in floor cleaning at about $10k The only other point i'd make is, if you went fibreglass they have to crane it in and depending on your block type / access etc, there will be additional crane costs etc for that. That being said i'd fully expect a fibreglass pool to be overall cheaper than a concrete one. Hope that helps - but the moral of the story is, they aren't cheap! Hi sifntdaz, we encountered surface water too in the month of June and we couldn't proceed with the pool and it's been postponed to after the build during summer months. I am keen to know how you overcame the surface water issue? Probably depends on how much surface water encountered. Ours was a steady sludge like consistency coming out (bit like mud lava) as well as a some pockets of more 'normal' water consistency. Our pool builder needed to board up the entire shell with timber which is not usually required to stop the soil from caving in and the water / mud flowing through. The steel went on top of the timber boards and the concrete was sprayed. We were lucky that the week we did it, the weather was fine (this was about 2 weeks ago) and we didn't have rain during the dig / build / spray timeframe. Re: Budgeting for a pool 6Aug 21, 2020 7:02 pm You are actually describing the same situation we had. Our pool is quite near to the fence and the soil was caving in below the fence line and could have compromised the soil beneath our neighbour and hence we couldn't proceed. Same slurry water and we actually had at one point a meter depth of water. We have around 2 metres on one side of boundary so hoping to get the pool done during summer. Re: Budgeting for a pool 7Aug 21, 2020 7:36 pm BigDaddy You are actually describing the same situation we had. Our pool is quite near to the fence and the soil was caving in below the fence line and could have compromised the soil beneath our neighbour and hence we couldn't proceed. Same slurry water and we actually had at one point a meter depth of water. We have around 2 metres on one side of boundary so hoping to get the pool done during summer. sounds unfortunate as i'm sure it's going to be more challenging and potentially costlier to do the pool after the build. our pool guy has been really good thus far. He had his team go over to the neighbours place to build some temporary support for the fence. Did you pool guy at least try to board up the side of the shell to see if they could stop the cave ins? we also had a lot of water during the dig as well as overnight as there was 4 days between the initial dig and the concrete spray (monday to thursday) and the pool guy had to pump it all out every morning to start work. it basically went: monday - dig and some boarding tuesday - board, steel wed - finish steel, surveyor inspection thurs - clean up and concrete spray Re: Budgeting for a pool 8Aug 22, 2020 12:26 pm Hi. We have gone the fibre glass option. Whilst the thought of a custom pool that looks high end was appealing for us overall the cost difference meant that we'd prefer to spend the money elsewhere on our build. One of the main reasons was we had the space that we didn't need to a custom shape. Fibre glass pools have come a long way also with some really great designs and shapes. In order to save costs we installed the pool ahead of the build. We had to build this closer to the house in the backyard due to the location of the sewer tie. We have paid about $50k through Narellan Pools excluding pool fencing and paving. We'd anticipate this is about another $15-$20k in costs depending if we go standard glass fencing or custom black steel fencing (apparently glass is a nightmare to clean). Our cost includes: 4 x 8m grey quartz pool including installation, trenching, plumbing, concreting etc. Magna Pool (apparently everyone is raving about the benefits of magnesium and much easier to maintain) Zodiak Cartridge Filter Zodiak Flo Pro Pump 2 x Underwater Lights w Remote VX45 Zodiak Cleaning System Supreme Vortex 17kW Electric Heating System Supreme Pool Cover Pool Hardcover during build (not engineered as not required) Temporary Fencing (this was done through a third party not Narellan due to costs - about $600 for duration of the build) We were recommended Narellan by our friend who does pool tiling for a lot of builds and said that they are the most reliable - its a very old school industry and can be difficult to navigate through and deal with at times. Hope this helps. Re: Budgeting for a pool 9Aug 23, 2020 1:54 pm build2020 Hi everyone, Does anyone know how much to allow in our build budget for an in-ground concrete pool. Are there any costs outside of installation that we should be factoring in (apart from fencing and landscaping?) Also, any feedback regarding fibreglass v concrete pool would be great! Many thanks. Pool cost has a tonne of variables! We researched both concrete and fibreglass. Chose fibreglass in the end due to cost, time and look. We allowed 120k for pool, associated paving, water feature and stacked stone on top of it, lighting and fencing. Pool is 8.2 m x 3.5 m pool and spa combo. I love concrete pools but the fully tiled is a big expense. They are flexible though, as has been mentioned above. Concrete and Fibreglass can both be done prior to house build and covered (sleeper pool) and finished off later. Just on pools, bear in mind that the paving/decking can either make or break the pool. Some lift the pool to look stunning, others make the pool look like it cost 10 dollars. Stone or decking choice is important, as are landscaping plants around the pool. You tend to spend more time "around the pool" rather than in it, so is there space for sun lounges? Chair and tables? Do you need an outdoor shower? Lots of factors to consider. https://thomasarcherbuild.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html - Thomas Archer Homes - Custom Nouveau 41 Re: Budgeting for a pool 10Aug 23, 2020 1:56 pm lilaandco Hi. We have gone the fibre glass option. Whilst the thought of a custom pool that looks high end was appealing for us overall the cost difference meant that we'd prefer to spend the money elsewhere on our build. One of the main reasons was we had the space that we didn't need to a custom shape. Fibre glass pools have come a long way also with some really great designs and shapes. In order to save costs we installed the pool ahead of the build. We had to build this closer to the house in the backyard due to the location of the sewer tie. We have paid about $50k through Narellan Pools excluding pool fencing and paving. We'd anticipate this is about another $15-$20k in costs depending if we go standard glass fencing or custom black steel fencing (apparently glass is a nightmare to clean). Our cost includes: 4 x 8m grey quartz pool including installation, trenching, plumbing, concreting etc. Magna Pool (apparently everyone is raving about the benefits of magnesium and much easier to maintain) Zodiak Cartridge Filter Zodiak Flo Pro Pump 2 x Underwater Lights w Remote VX45 Zodiak Cleaning System Supreme Vortex 17kW Electric Heating System Supreme Pool Cover Pool Hardcover during build (not engineered as not required) Temporary Fencing (this was done through a third party not Narellan due to costs - about $600 for duration of the build) We were recommended Narellan by our friend who does pool tiling for a lot of builds and said that they are the most reliable - its a very old school industry and can be difficult to navigate through and deal with at times. Hope this helps. Eerily similar! And yes, we went the magna pool route too. https://thomasarcherbuild.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html - Thomas Archer Homes - Custom Nouveau 41 Re: Budgeting for a pool 11Aug 23, 2020 2:28 pm Thanks for the replies everyone. Our pool is on the smaller side and will be a design feature of the home given it will be very close to our living room window. I'm just not quite feeling the fibreglass look in terms of aesthetics compared to the tiled concrete pool. Does anyone have any images they could share of how a fibreglass pool could look really luxe? I'm just not seeing it in all the research I have done, when I compare to them to concrete pools. Re: Budgeting for a pool 12Aug 23, 2020 2:42 pm Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ 2 comments ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ https://thomasarcherbuild.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html - Thomas Archer Homes - Custom Nouveau 41 Re: Budgeting for a pool 14Aug 23, 2020 2:51 pm Exactly. A deep drop face coper and no one even knows its fibreglass! Our current pool is concrete and a little on the cold side tbh. Plus it's not fully tiled and gets scratchy on the toes if you hit a "rough bit". Totally up to the individual but the $ we saved on the pool itself is going on the soft and hard landscaping to really make it POP. Good luck! https://thomasarcherbuild.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html - Thomas Archer Homes - Custom Nouveau 41 Re: Budgeting for a pool 15Aug 25, 2020 6:56 am We are putting in a concrete pool, 10 x 3m with a spa and it’s costing us about 90k. That doesn’t include fencing or tile surrounds. We did originally want a fibreglass pool as they are apparently easier to keep clean and heat but we’re putting it between the house and side boundary so needed to be concrete. We haven’t started digging yet so not sure what surprises are lurking beneath! Re: Budgeting for a pool 17Dec 12, 2020 1:16 pm Leeota We are putting in a concrete pool, 10 x 3m with a spa and it’s costing us about 90k. That doesn’t include fencing or tile surrounds. We did originally want a fibreglass pool as they are apparently easier to keep clean and heat but we’re putting it between the house and side boundary so needed to be concrete. We haven’t started digging yet so not sure what surprises are lurking beneath! We're looking at a 10x3 pool and spa beside house too (building with TA). We've had some big pool quotes come back. Did you 90k include gas heating and infloor cleaning? Re: Budgeting for a pool 19Dec 16, 2020 5:24 am Leeota We had a few that were craaaazy! It includes gas and solar but not infloor cleaning. Was originally one of my non negotiables but the pool co talked us out of it Thanks for you response! May I ask what company you are using? We're finding some aren't very responsive, suspect it might be a busy period for them. Interesting you got talked out of infloor cleaning, will have to look into it further. Hi everyone, Looking for some advise. We are about to build an above ground pool in our backyard. There is a private sewer line running under the pool at 1.6m… 0 11763 Hi, I'm new to this forum so I hope I'm doing this post correctly. Please advise if it's not. I've just bought my place. The inground pool has a marble lining that has… 0 13663 Murraya could be a great option for you. It creates a great tall screening hedge but doesn't drop fruit like lily pilly. The flowers smell divine. 2 10253 |