Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Home networking future proofing 28Mar 05, 2022 7:17 pm Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Home networking future proofing 30Mar 05, 2022 7:40 pm Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Home networking future proofing 36Jun 18, 2023 8:36 pm I wouldn't worry about loss on cables over 100m as your average house would rarely have a run this long. For places that might only have 1 port but multiple devices a cheap unmanaged switch etc would be the go, yes it will be limited to the 1GbE connection coming in but rarely will you have more than 1 device that would saturate that. If I had the time I would have asked the Builder if I could run my own Network or if they said no have my own people do the work as they only ever use electricians to run it which majority have no idea how they should be run etc and try to use as least amount of cable as possible. Which was crazy as our guys charged a high price for that, so I myself choose to ran at least 1 cable to everywhere I thought I would ever want one and chose to then run extras after moving in. At least that way I had a run already done that I could just fish new cables through.. In most cases you will have some random location that they decide to put the NBN box and yes usually they will put the limited included network they provide to this area without much thought of end devices etc. I knew what I wanted so they originally had the plans to put NBN on a wall in the garage, so I had them move it into a small storage room off my garage and run all the network/cameras back to this spot. I should have been a little more clear of how I wanted it as I ended up with way too much power etc on the wall here as they just moved everything into there rather than cull some of the GPO's I wouldn't need and still had the CCTV and Network on wall outlets rather than leave in the roof for me to bring down on a cable tray. I would say thought I assume it would be way cheaper for them to install cable now than it will be getting someone to do at a later time if you are worried, just knowing how much extra work will be involved after everything is covered. It really makes me wonder why they think it is okay to charge so much to run some CAT6 cables the way they run it at framing stage..... Re: Home networking future proofing 37Jun 20, 2023 7:22 am speaking from experience, we had ports installed everywhere we expected an entertainment system such as TV/console etc. good to have but have since moved in around 3 months and never needed to use it. if you buy a half decent gaming router there is no need for wires. i have my router sitting on the floor in the front part of the house on a double storey and can still have strong 2.4/5ghz connection on the first floor the furthest away from the router. unless your network is running something hardcore that requires that strong network bandwidth a hard wired connection is a thing of the past. yeh you'll get a drop out here and there buts its negligible Re: Home networking future proofing 38Jun 20, 2023 7:14 pm If you don't mind me asking, what speed drop do you have if you connect as far as possible to your wifi vs if you connect to the ethernet cable? Re: Home networking future proofing 39Jun 20, 2023 7:17 pm MrSober I wouldn't worry about loss on cables over 100m as your average house would rarely have a run this long. For places that might only have 1 port but multiple devices a cheap unmanaged switch etc would be the go, yes it will be limited to the 1GbE connection coming in but rarely will you have more than 1 device that would saturate that. If I had the time I would have asked the Builder if I could run my own Network or if they said no have my own people do the work as they only ever use electricians to run it which majority have no idea how they should be run etc and try to use as least amount of cable as possible. Which was crazy as our guys charged a high price for that, so I myself choose to ran at least 1 cable to everywhere I thought I would ever want one and chose to then run extras after moving in. At least that way I had a run already done that I could just fish new cables through.. In most cases you will have some random location that they decide to put the NBN box and yes usually they will put the limited included network they provide to this area without much thought of end devices etc. I knew what I wanted so they originally had the plans to put NBN on a wall in the garage, so I had them move it into a small storage room off my garage and run all the network/cameras back to this spot. I should have been a little more clear of how I wanted it as I ended up with way too much power etc on the wall here as they just moved everything into there rather than cull some of the GPO's I wouldn't need and still had the CCTV and Network on wall outlets rather than leave in the roof for me to bring down on a cable tray. I would say thought I assume it would be way cheaper for them to install cable now than it will be getting someone to do at a later time if you are worried, just knowing how much extra work will be involved after everything is covered. It really makes me wonder why they think it is okay to charge so much to run some CAT6 cables the way they run it at framing stage..... Network design is beyond me. How does someone like me get an accurate idea of what I want and where? Re: Home networking future proofing 40Jun 20, 2023 7:36 pm So yeah a few thoughts - Don't worry about the 100m limits etc. - Anywhere you've got a single port, you can connect a small network switch and 'split' it into more ports if needed. I personally just put one port everywhere I wanted networking. But some people recommend at least 2 incase one somehow fails (which would be rare). - Avoid using mesh wifi points. You want your wifi access points connected to your router via ethernet. If you're going to install any network points at all I'd say having hard wired wifi access points is the most important. If you have a number of wifi points across the home (upstairs and down) and they all connect back to the router via ethernet then you'll at least have a solid wifi network setup without too many dead spots. In terms of priority and ROI of things this is what I'd do (further down the list , less important): - Network points for WiFi access points. 2 - 4 Wifi Access Points across the home (upstairs and down). So all can connect back to the router via ethernet. - Network point to any bandwidth heavy devices (tvs, media streaming devices etc).This takes load off the wifi network, which for devices that don't move and use a lot of bandwidth is usually pretty good bang for buck. - Network point to any study or bedroom areas to connect computers. Good if wanting / needing to quickly transfer files around the house. - Network points to any extra areas you think might want to connect any of the above in the future. - Double up network points for redundancy / extra devices. 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