Browse Forums Building Standards; Getting It Right! 1 Sep 30, 2008 6:49 pm Could anyone tell us what that minimum gap should be between a Structual Steel Beam and a Stacker door frame?
Our house has been built with 2 sets of stacker doors at the back of the house. The doors on the RHS are wider and require a Structual Steel beam above the doors. The doors on the LHS are narrower and do not require a steel beam, just a lintel. The problem is, there is a much greater gap (about 35mm) above the RHS doors than the LHS and the brickwork has been laid differently above the RHS doors. To us it doesn't look right. We would like to know if it has to be like this or the builders have made a mistake with the height of the Steel beam which has been put in. Thanks, Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Structural steel above Stacker doors 2Sep 30, 2008 9:27 pm Doesn't look right to me. I would definately be sending an email to your builder (so its in writing) that you are concerned about the way it looks and you want to know why it looks this way. Get them to explain. Re: Structural steel above Stacker doors 3Sep 30, 2008 10:03 pm On the face of it, it looks like the structural beam has been installed too high. At a guess if it's a timber frame it possibly lines up with the timber lintel over the smaller opening. Peter Clarkson - AusDesign Australia www.ausdesign.com.au This information is intended to provide general information only. It does not purport to be a comprehensive advice. Re: Structural steel above Stacker doors 4Sep 30, 2008 11:41 pm Thanks for the reply's. Thats exactly what we thought, the Steel beam has been installed too high. We've added another photo which shows the difference between the two from inside.
Is it still possible to drop the Steel Beam down to the correct height? Our main gripe is how the brickwork looks so different above each set of doors. It looks like the doors on the RHS have been added at a later date, not from new build. Re: Structural steel above Stacker doors 5Oct 01, 2008 8:43 am The universal beam couldn't be be lowered now without a huge amount of work.
Can't tell from the picture but I assume that the width of the beam meant that a separate brick lintel couldn't be used. Framing wise the beam has been installed in the correct position but in retrospect ( and its easy to be wiser after ) it could have been set lower and the plate size on top ( that the upper floor joists are sitting on ) could have been sized accordingly. Is the brickwork being rendered ? Peter Clarkson - AusDesign Australia www.ausdesign.com.au This information is intended to provide general information only. It does not purport to be a comprehensive advice. Re: Structural steel above Stacker doors 6Oct 01, 2008 9:00 am I think one of the ways they could fix it is having to make a custom sized stacker and hav it refit. Or it may have to be filled and rendered.
Ask what the options are also via email so you get that in writing also. Re: Structural steel above Stacker doors 7Oct 01, 2008 3:16 pm No, the brickwork isn't being rendered. It wouldn't be so bad if was as it would be covered over.
Do you think another solution could be to raise the lintel above the LHS doors the same height as the RHS doors and rebrick to match . Just hoping the morter doesn't look too patchy after all the rebricking. We've emailed our builder and it's currently being looked at by the area manager. Re: Structural steel above Stacker doors 8Oct 01, 2008 3:31 pm Appleheadz No, the brickwork isn't being rendered. It wouldn't be so bad if was as it would be covered over. Umm...I suspect Peter's reason for asking is less related to the steel beam issue and more to the quality of the brickwork...to my eye the brickwork doesn't look supaflash... ....Peter? Re: Structural steel above Stacker doors 9Oct 01, 2008 4:16 pm [quote="Appleheadz"]No, the brickwork isn't being rendered. It wouldn't be so bad if was as it would be covered over.
Do you think another solution could be to raise the lintel above the LHS doors the same height as the RHS doors and rebrick to match . Just hoping the morter doesn't look too patchy after all the rebricking. quote] No the 'brick lintel' sits on the brick course below so it can't match the RHS as this is between courses, hence the header course over the wider opening to catch up with the overall gauge. And yes 'to_do_list' I agree the finish doesn't look too flash at the moment but that may clean up ok. It is hard to tell from the pic but it appeared to possibly be a struck joint on the mortar rather a raked or ironed joint which made me wonder if it was being rendered, which would remove most of the asthetic worries. I'd make your concerns known & ask what solutions can be made. Personally I wouldn't accept the finish as it is but then I'm a fussy bugger & I'm also not privy to any conversations that may have taken place with the builder. Peter Clarkson - AusDesign Australia www.ausdesign.com.au This information is intended to provide general information only. It does not purport to be a comprehensive advice. What do you need them to withstand? If it's normal wear and tear, then either will do, if you want resistance to ingress then laminated would be the favourite, but only… 1 12390 Flashings over doorways and windows our carpenter has installed flashings that is buckled and short of the window frames and door frames is this right Is there a… 0 10925 Hi I am wanting some opinions about the build of a steel shed I am going to get one about 4.5 x 2.5 m steel shed and the height will be about 2.3-2.4m high The one I am… 0 14449 |