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Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 3Dec 08, 2019 9:49 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 5Dec 08, 2019 11:18 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 7Dec 08, 2019 12:28 pm Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 9Dec 08, 2019 12:44 pm Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 11Dec 08, 2019 1:11 pm Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 12Dec 08, 2019 9:21 pm The NCC is the overarching guide that refers you to standards. Imagine if they’re freely available. No more “that’s how it’s always been done” no more “it’s to standard” when it clearly isn’t. Give the power back to people who are paying a fortune to get a house built properly. Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 13Dec 09, 2019 6:22 pm Structural Bimbo writes "The bottom line is that architects and Building Surveyors are unable to do and certify the calculations mandated within the Australian Standards." You don't get it and never have, it goes beyond ignorance. I suggest you get your electronics checked out, my diagnosis is there is a faulty neuron. The bottom line is that structural engineers do certify their calculations which then are peer reviewed and certified by another independent engineer. It is not the function of Building Surveyors to certify engineering calculations but in their interpretation and administration of building control they must be satisfied that the proposed building will satisfy building act, building regulations, NCC and the mandated Australian standards. BS may accept certificates as proof of compliance without having to be able to do the calculations themselves. That is how it works Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 14Dec 09, 2019 6:26 pm Liliana I'm sorry BIM Guy but I'm too left brained to follow your "line" of argument:-?. Don't worry Liliana, there is nothing wrong with your neurons, left or right. The faulty neurons are elsewhere. Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 15Dec 09, 2019 6:57 pm building-expert BS may accept certificates as proof of compliance without having to be able to do the calculations themselves. And that is why Victoria has all the problems with non compliance If you have a structural problem go see an Engineer It's an absolute joke that BSs charge $600 to sight the engineers Certificate...you'd think they would understand what they are certifying Obviously not...LOL it requires an Engineer Peer review in Victoria Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 16Dec 09, 2019 8:22 pm StructuralBIMGuy building-expert BS may accept certificates as proof of compliance without having to be able to do the calculations themselves. And that is why Victoria has all the problems with non compliance If you have a structural problem go see an Engineer It's an absolute joke that BSs charge $600 to sight the engineers Certificate...you'd think they would understand what they are certifying Obviously not...LOL it requires an Engineer Peer review in Victoria Again you are wrong and putting forward misleading information: The problems with non compliance in Victoria are not of engineering nature and engineers cannot fix them. It's to do with inadequate building control regulation and lack of enforcement driven by entrenched corruption. Regardless of the above there are 20k plus builders In Victoria building 20 K plus dwelling every year and only a small proportion of dwellings have serious defect. Even a small proportion is unacceptable but there has to be the balance in the perspective. BS will quote a fee for their services that include assessment, issuing of permit, administration and mandatory inspections. I don't believe it can be said that they charge $600 to sight engineers certificate but if you have the proof please post it, otherwise you are just hot air. Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 17Dec 11, 2019 10:48 am building-expert BS will quote a fee for their services that include assessment, issuing of permit, administration and mandatory inspections. I don't believe it can be said that they charge $600 to sight engineers certificate but if you have the proof please post it, otherwise you are just hot air. In WA there is a 2 tier system 1. Council BSs employees earn $60k a year, issue building permits, lack resources, charge fixed council fee, don't do inspections and answer indirectly to rate payers 2. Independent BSs earn over $100k fast track checking, do mandatory inspections, Quote $600 for engineer stamp (they organise) + $600 for BS stamp = $1200 plus GST and answers to nobody. lol some charge whatever they want for stamping structural inspections, knowing the Council BSs are threatening non compliance or worse demolition Both tiers can not certify structural non compliance, for that you need an engineer OT Architects stamps have become worthless Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 18Jan 12, 2020 11:07 am So as a consumer who has a house with structural issues and non-compliance, I hire a Structural Engineer (SE) who assesses and provides a report.
That report then goes to the original builder who goes to his insurer, who sends out a SE. Writes a deceptive and misleading report. The original SE who engineered my home (also at fault), contacts his lawyer and they send out yet another SE. More finger pointing but the report deflects the blame away from the original SE (of course). My home insurer now becomes involved as I sought a plumbing inspection (as no other SE had suggested this), and I have a broken sanitary pipe (BTW, no flexible joints were used according to Standards/Code. Guess what, my insurer sends out a SE and a Geotechnical Engineer. Still waiting on outcome but I after what I have been through the past 7 years, I have a feeling what the outcome will be. It is glaringly obvious that short cuts were taken for cost cutting when building my home. But how does one find an honest and reliable Structural Engineer and who assesses based on the facts? As Building expert pointed out, there is 'inadequate building control regulation and lack of enforcement driven by entrenched corruption'. Unfortunately it is the consumer who loses out no matter what Act, Standard or Code is or is not being used. Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 19Jan 12, 2020 1:12 pm You are oh so right Harts. It's like a game of "pass the parcel" except we all know where the parcel is going to stop - the consumer. And to paraphrase Amy Winehouse - in too many cases at the moment, "building" is a losing game. Re: The National Construction Code not fit for purpose 20Jan 12, 2020 1:19 pm So just to be clear...every structural engineer came up with a different report? Or did they all find the same defects and just put the blame somewhere more convenient to their client? A survey must’ve completed by a certified surveyor. This form part of every DA requirement 3 179655 Hi All, see above image. The required setback from the rear boundary in my case is 5m, as you can see the shape of the site and location of the boundary is slightly… 0 5835 CDC Housing Code 3 When to apply Floor Area external face of wall vs Gross Floor Area internal face of wall. Reading thru CDC Housing Code 3, lets take a lot 915sqm.… 0 11663 |