Browse Forums Building Standards; Getting It Right! 1 Sep 04, 2019 7:48 am Hi There, The new schedule 5 in BCA 2019 - Fire Resistance of Building Elements means that building elements required to have an FRL need there fire resistance calculated in accordance with this schedule. One way to achieve a calculation is in accordance with the masonry standard AS 3700 for masonry walls. I've tried to calculate it myself for cavity walls but I am not an engineer so i've run into a bit of difficulty. Clause 6.3.2.1 (a) states that for cavity walls: Where both leaves have superimposed axial force, with values within 10% of each other, including the case of no superimposed axial force on either leaf, the slenderness ratio shall be based on two-thirds of the sum of the thickness of the two leaves and the fixity of the leaf not exposed to the fire. I understand the majority of the above, but not the fixity of the exposed leaf, what is that? and how do I calculate it? I understand that calculating the slenderness ratio for a masonry member will allow me to calculate the fire resistance for structural adequecy. Also is it possible for someone to go through the calculation for a masonry wall under 6.3.2.2 (b)? Thanks in advance. Re: Calculating the FRLs for masonry walls with AS 3700 2Sep 04, 2019 10:09 am BS student I've tried to calculate it myself for cavity walls but I am not an engineer so i've run into a bit of difficulty.... Also is it possible for someone to go through the calculation for a masonry wall under 6.3.2.2 (b)? Hire a Fire engineer to inspect the masonry wall on site ( highly recommended) and then go through the calculations/proofs as there are many variables and reduction factors to consider. OT, Yet another reason that home owners need to take Photos, collect and check build data and have staged Engineering Inspections of their build. hth Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Calculating the FRLs for masonry walls with AS 3700 3Sep 04, 2019 11:33 am StructuralBIMGuy BS student I've tried to calculate it myself for cavity walls but I am not an engineer so i've run into a bit of difficulty.... Also is it possible for someone to go through the calculation for a masonry wall under 6.3.2.2 (b)? Hire a Fire engineer to inspect the masonry wall on site ( highly recommended) and then go through the calculations/proofs as there are many variables and reduction factors to consider. OT, Yet another reason that home owners need to take Photos, collect and check build data and have staged Engineering Inspections of their build. hth Hi, the reason that I ask is that I’m a building surveying student not an owner builder. If you could take me through the calculation I’d highly appreciate it Oh no! I would use a can of expandable foam ( there are some that will take render) then cut it back and render over the top 1 11745 Good questions but the best answer will be obtained by visiting (ie: interviewing) a couple of house designers and/or builders and ask them. You may find it challenging to… 2 8066 I might be misunderstanding.... but I would be more inclined to cut a section out from the cinder block wall and place the cistern in the cinder block wall. Very messy job… 1 11867 |