Browse Forums Building Standards; Getting It Right! 1 Jan 17, 2015 9:26 am Hey guys, what is the standard which stipulates how much in line mortar joins need to be? Ive got a small section of wall that the vertical mortar joins are all over the place. I think the brickie was on the turps that day. Do you think it's bad enough to get them to pull down? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Brick Mortar lining up 2Jan 17, 2015 2:46 pm I don't think there is a standard for that. It can be common for a brickie to change their cuts if it is a short run. He may have started with a 3/4 cut to avoid having a small finish piece for eg. Hard to say without having a better look at the layout of the run. The mortar looks a bit uneven in parts, but it is a bad photo with shadows etc to judge. I doubt anyone would pull it down because a few perps don't line up, and as I said, if it's a short run he may have fudged it for another reason Re: Brick Mortar lining up 4Jan 17, 2015 6:48 pm Check out the Masonry section of the following page... http://bendigowaldorf.blogspot.com/2014 ... -home.html Re: Brick Mortar lining up 5Jan 17, 2015 7:18 pm You are well within your rights to have them torn down and redone. That is terrible workmanship. Re: Brick Mortar lining up 8Jan 18, 2015 1:31 am Crazyk I can't find a copy of AS3700. Anyone able to point me in the right direction? I'd you do manage to find a copy please let me know. Re: Brick Mortar lining up 9Jan 18, 2015 7:19 am As per what 33amc is saying. How far in mm is it to the next window or door opening on the right? I bet my left and right that it doesn't work out to full brick sizes and the brickie has had to cut a few 3/4 sizes to get a decent bond. Stewie Re: Brick Mortar lining up 10Jan 18, 2015 9:24 am It's about 3m. Forget the bottom bottom brick. I know that's just to fill the rebate. The first coarse is a full brick - great The second coarse is 3/4 - ok but not right The third coarse is 1/2 - like wtf? The fourth coarse is not even a full brick - again wtf Where I went to school you would think that 1&3 are the same, 2&4 are the same. This is all over the shop. Re: Brick Mortar lining up 11Jan 18, 2015 11:06 am When doing brick work with a 3/4 brick the course above will have to be a 1/2 otherwise you will not get the correct bond that is standard in bricklaying . On hindsight you may have been able to adjust the position of the door or window to avoid the situation,while the brickwork is not the best I have seen a lot worse. Brick Mortar lining up 12Jan 18, 2015 11:46 am Tim65 When doing brick work with a 3/4 brick the course above will have to be a 1/2 otherwise you will not get the correct bond that is standard in bricklaying . On hindsight you may have been able to adjust the position of the door or window to avoid the situation,while the brickwork is not the best I have seen a lot worse. Why would that be an option when clearly a 3/4 on the second coarse is not needed when the other coarses above it don't? I think it's just laziness Re: Brick Mortar lining up 13Jan 18, 2015 1:36 pm Without seeing a full photo it's difficult to give accurate advice, looking at 2nd course up they have lost the bond where they have put a 3/4 in but this is not giving a full half lap,as Said before a bit more thought beforehand could have possibly avoided the situation. Re: Brick Mortar lining up 14Jan 18, 2015 1:42 pm 2870, 2990, 3110mm are full and half brick sizes for a wall "about 3m " long, that's why I asked for the exact measurement. When I draw plans and it is for a brick veneer house I work all the openings and wall sizes for full and half brick measurements... - less work and cost for the brickie and builder ( and theoretically for the client ) - uniform bond for the brickwork - standard 10mm perps and courses for the mortar - standard door and window sizes ( once again easier and cheaper for everyone - builder, client etc ) Nearly all project home builders plans will be of a similar set out regarding the brickwork and door window openings. Occasionally of course this doesn't always work out due to odd sized length of walls and custom window sizes etc but for most houses you should end up with uniformly bonded brickwork. Stewie Re: Brick Mortar lining up 16Jan 19, 2015 7:13 am 3230 is for a wall using 13 1/2 230mm bricks. So the brickie has had to cut 40mm off a brick every course to suit your between window measurement of 3190mm to maintain a 10mm perp. That's either bad design by the draftie or bad management by the builder when they set out the walls and windows notwithstanding other reasons of course. However if the cut bricks are used either 1/2 a brick in or as the end brick from each alternating end there is no reason why the brickie can't achieve a consistent bond. A lot of times though you just won't get the perps lining up. This brick dimension chart may help. It was scanned at 600DPI so you should be able to print it at full A4 page size and make out all the dimensions Stewie Re: Brick Mortar lining up 20Jan 25, 2015 3:36 am Crazyk I've not taken it up with my builder yet. I will be putting it on the defect list at lockup. Might be a mute point considering DPC has been installed incorrectly. How far from lock-up are you? Hi, I'm new to this forum so I hope I'm doing this post correctly. Please advise if it's not. I've just bought my place. 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