Browse Forums Building Standards; Getting It Right! Re: building standard for brick work gaps 3Nov 10, 2009 4:25 pm Hi Mark and Ally, The maximum allowable space in the vertical perpends is 15mm, the maximum space in the horizintal bed joint is 13mm. The standards go into alot more details such as maximum difference in mortar thickness in any one wall. In most cases this is not a structural issue but purely cosmetic. Best to get onto this at the early stages as can cause some real delays if the brickwork needs pullind down and rebuilding. Re: building standard for brick work gaps 4Nov 10, 2009 9:09 pm thanks for your help guys. The builder reckons that after the bricks are cleaned it will me fine but i don't know. I think that i am going to get an independent building inspector to look at it anyway. The builder has there own inspectors that proberly pass anything. If my inspectors finds it to be wrong does that mean that have no choice to fix it or is it their word against ours? Re: building standard for brick work gaps 5Nov 11, 2009 6:58 pm If an independant inspector fines that the brickwork is not up to standards, in their report they will detail why and according to which standard or tolerance set by the builsing commission. Its very difficult for someone to ignore this. The Home Inspection Hub A Victorian based property inspection company https://thehomeinspectionhub.com.au/ Re: building standard for brick work gaps 6Nov 12, 2009 10:21 pm Property Inspections If an independant inspector fines that the brickwork is not up to standards, in their report they will detail why and according to which standard or tolerance set by the builsing commission. Its very difficult for someone to ignore this. My brickwork is not up to standard, in my courtyard I have about 4 chipped bricks and 3 that are out more than the allowed 3mm. I got told they can replace these 7 bricks, but the mortar may not match and it could look stupid. What do I do? Re: building standard for brick work gaps 8Dec 10, 2009 7:44 pm Lex buildingwithhamra, do you have a coloured mortar? How did you go with this? I didn't end up replacing them, many of chipped bricks were in the structural column of the garage pier and to remove them would ruin the intergrity of the pier, I did get the whole back of house rendered as some of my perpends were up to 22mm!!!! Re: building standard for brick work gaps 10Dec 28, 2009 4:09 pm The code also states that all perpends need to line up, that is all the Vertical joints should line up every second course. obviously each horizontal course needs to be straight and even Re: building standard for brick work gaps 11Dec 28, 2009 8:46 pm I cant believe the building code actually states 15 mm for a perp and 13 mm for bed joints WTF!!! any brickie worthy of wielding a trowel knows 8-10mm for perps and bed joints is ample any bigger is just RUFF. Re: building standard for brick work gaps 12Dec 28, 2009 8:51 pm Mark&Alli buildingwithhamra, did they do the render for you? wouldn't they redo the brickwork? I am going to have a similair problem and i don't want to render the house. Yes they rendered for me. I guess that was cheaper than pulling down a whole wall, and getting more bricks, and measuring them all to only lay the bigger ones. I have been told bricks can be 6mm difference in length and thats probably why my perpends were too large Re: building standard for brick work gaps 13Dec 28, 2009 9:09 pm On the same topic, what the max thinkness for a mortar bed under the first course of bricks? Thats the one that goes on the slab rebate to hold the first row. If your slab rebate is not flat & level what do you do to keep the line streight. Jack it up with more mortar? Cheers KW......... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: building standard for brick work gaps 14Dec 28, 2009 9:45 pm King willy On the same topic, what the max thinkness for a mortar bed under the first course of bricks? Thats the one that goes on the slab rebate to hold the first row. If your slab rebate is not flat & level what do you do to keep the line streight. Jack it up with more mortar? Cheers KW......... As a rule no more than 20-30 mm that is if the first course is not seen,if the first course is face brickwork then splits should be cut, if the rebate has dip in it for a few bricks then most brickies would just get away with bedding it up> In saying that we have all seen instances of 50 mm of mud under the first course or even more!! Re: building standard for brick work gaps 15Dec 28, 2009 10:15 pm buildingwithhamra Mark&Alli buildingwithhamra, did they do the render for you? wouldn't they redo the brickwork? I am going to have a similair problem and i don't want to render the house. Yes they rendered for me. I guess that was cheaper than pulling down a whole wall, and getting more bricks, and measuring them all to only lay the bigger ones. I have been told bricks can be 6mm difference in length and thats probably why my perpends were too large If your bricks are 6 mm off the nominal width of 230 mm then they are out of specification and should not have been used. Why not measure some of your bricks. I doubt any are shorter than 226 mm. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: building standard for brick work gaps 16Dec 28, 2009 11:40 pm Bunga I would think a split 1/2 brick or 2 would look pretty poor in the first course. Whats the down side to putting too much mud under the first course to fill in a dip? I would think mortar is not as strong as concrete? More so if you have brick over hang to go with it. KW......... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: building standard for brick work gaps 17Dec 29, 2009 8:38 am King willy Bunga I would think a split 1/2 brick or 2 would look pretty poor in the first course. Whats the down side to putting too much mud under the first course to fill in a dip? I would think mortar is not as strong as concrete? More so if you have brick over hang to go with it. KW......... Regardless of how poor it looks i would much rather a split brick laid instead of a heap of mud laid under first course, in most cases the wall would be fine if a big bed on the first course has been used most brickies bed up the first course then leave it to go off otherwise there may be a chance of the wall sinking of bellying if wall continues up after big bed on first course. If the first course overhangs the rebate my more than a 1/3 of the width of the brick then i would be trying to get the rebate fixed or using an angle iron to support the brickwork. 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