Browse Forums Building Standards; Getting It Right! 1 Jun 17, 2009 11:56 pm Hi, With the government grant on new insulation, we decided to install insulation (as we had none at all) and replace our roof with colorbond as the old tiles were a bit ratty. We got a quote (verbal), and the price was ok, so we kicked off. Unfortunately, three days in and with the roof off, it started to rain and the builder had to stop. Whilst away, we got news from our builder that the price needs to double due to a few oversights. Unfortunately thats big dollars we dont have, which means no more work can continue. As we have leaks, I need to go out and secure the roof. There is a tarp over it at the moment, but its held down with bits of wood which are sliding and ponding is forming. Are there any good sites with information on how I can do this? Or make a temporary roof? Even better, if there is any info on how to put cliplok roofing on? Their site doesnt go into to much detail, apart from saying it pushes on. Anyway, any help would be very much appreciated. thanks, Steve Re: Over a barrel and need to locate building standards 2Jun 18, 2009 7:17 am I'd be talking to your builder and getting him to come back and fix what he has started... Verbal Quote or not, it's a contract between two parties... Unless the job has got much bigger than his original viewing and quotation, then he must stick to his "verbal" quote... Electrical Engineer... Don't hold that against me... And keen owner builder... Mainly the building part!! Re: Over a barrel and need to locate building standards 3Jun 18, 2009 10:59 am Contracts can be verbal, written or implied. But, try enforcing a verbal contract. It sickens me that this happens. Have you paid any money to them yet. KW............... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: Over a barrel and need to locate building standards 4Jun 18, 2009 6:58 pm Not yet, but we have a bought a lot of materials. Although we have agreed on a price, he brings us invoices to pay. Unfortunately, we only have so much, so i expect, at very best, we will only get half a roof done. Re: Over a barrel and need to locate building standards 5Jun 18, 2009 10:17 pm No written agreement on the work to be done. No consideration or rate of payment for the work. Is this person a tradie, have they an ABN. I think you are in your rights to say dont come back, and get a proper tradie for a proper agreement and pay a bit more for a good job. Only my opinion. Good luck with it all. KW......... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: Over a barrel and need to locate building standards 6Jun 21, 2009 12:40 am Thanks for the advice, and I know your right. However, we have learnt a lot (this is our first house by the way - first time requesting work like this as we had always rented). We had the builder around today, and we managed to salvage something - half a roof, verbally, at the cost of the full job. What really sucked, is we had to do all his spread sheet of material details for him, including his charges for labour that cost as much as the insulation! (this seems to have taught us more about building items than him by the way). But even though, what is ethically right, dosent mean he has to do it. Courts would cost us all, and he knows we would walk away, rather than blow the lot, plus some in a 12 month litigation. In our discussions, we found a hidden agenda that would not budge - money and time, more importantly time lost due to weather. My new found knowledge; My understanding of the tradie business- 1. When it rains - they lose money - regardless - and you will pay, one way or another (only in Sydney maybe). 2. They actually live in Sydney. This (as with us, and everyone else here) means, that any old ram shackle hut they own is a million dollar investment minimum - period, and they must pay their mortgage - dosent matter if your a gardener or a doctor - you all make the same money here if you want to stay (this builder charges more than what I earn in just labour) 3. If you push for a written contract, they wont take the work (in Sydney, there is so much work, that the chances are you will never have the same client twice - even if you did, it would make not much difference to your bottom line) He is already onto new jobs. As a result, it looks like I will have to finish the remaining half of the roof once (and if) here returns to do anything. The builder is licensed - but the license is most likey from a Sydney managed organisation. steve Building Standards; Getting It Right! Don't think they are designed for double brick. WA has a particular way of building and unfortunately that's the way a large amount of sills are finished. 3 6996 I believe this is correct. From the picture you can see the power was put in last so the electrician knew where the water was. Really it's a common sense issue more… 4 5145 2 8621 |