Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 May 02, 2015 9:55 pm Hello Homeoners. I'm currently in the process of building a home and have run into a weird problem. So on our building plans it show that our windows come in sizes of 600mm, 900mm, 1500mm, 1800mm, 2400mm & 3000mm which seems to all be pretty standard window measurements. But the other day I was measuring up for our blinds and they were all smaller ranging from 35mm to 90mm throughout the whole house.. Is this normal because I have never come across this and have been told by our builder "that's just how we do things and every builder is going to have different window sizes" this just sound ridiculous Are the builders obligated to fix this or are we stuck with odd sized windows and have to get everything custom made?? Builder: Coral Homes Home Design: Avoca 26 Location: Brisbane Northern Suburbs Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 2May 02, 2015 10:27 pm Funnily enough, we went and looked at blinds today and the lady said that they will always measure because most the times there different from the plans. Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 3May 02, 2015 10:36 pm I've been getting mixed reactions when we go to places.. most of the time they give me... "thats so strange I've not run into that problem before"..and others say they quite often get some that are just that little bit off. Builder: Coral Homes Home Design: Avoca 26 Location: Brisbane Northern Suburbs Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 4May 02, 2015 11:12 pm Builders usually use a few different window companies. There are definitely variances in the standard sizing of each company. One in particular (that our builder ended up not using anymore) had quite large variances in size and set out so much that the carpenters needed to be advised if this company were supplying the windows for a particular job as they had to frame differently (whereas with most, the variance isn't large enough to require that). We've used a few different blind companies in different houses, and they've all had to measure. 1st build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=59376 *New*-2nd build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70324&p=1154282#p1154282 Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 5May 02, 2015 11:28 pm wow.. that would be frustrating as hell.. I understand that different window companies have variances in the standard sizing from one to another, but in our situation it looks as though the plasterers came along and plastered almost right up to the edge of the glass and then when the chippies came though to do the architrave for the windows it all lines up perfectly with the glass edge. so came home and checked it in our current house and there is a metal frame all around so this leads me to believe that someone mad a boo boo. Builder: Coral Homes Home Design: Avoca 26 Location: Brisbane Northern Suburbs Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 6May 03, 2015 8:20 am Really that's weird, there should be a frame, I doubt they would just stick glass panels in. Our house we have the metal frames and they also have timber frame, mainly because everything is prefabed though. It just slides in, and they plaster to the timber frame. Also the windows are inset so they are basically flush with the bricks etc Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 7May 03, 2015 8:48 am For brick or brick veneer houses, often the windows are sized to match half-brick widths. That helps the brickwork stay even around them. That tends to make them approximately multiples of 120mm in width. In terms of "plastered right up to the glass" - this sounds like those windows may have in-line reveals. A&L is one company that does this. In this case, the reveals are shrunk by design so that they line up with the inside of the aluminium frame. That way you don't see much of the aluminium frame from the inside. Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 8May 03, 2015 9:29 am Nic and Shell 1 Really that's weird, there should be a frame, I doubt they would just stick glass panels in. Our house we have the metal frames and they also have timber frame, mainly because everything is prefabed though. It just slides in, and they plaster to the timber frame. Also the windows are inset so they are basically flush with the bricks etc Sorry what I meant is that the windows all have the aluminum frames. But what the plasteres have done is covered over the frame right up to the glass edge. Very strange as I have looked at other windows and they all have their aluminum frames revealed. Builder: Coral Homes Home Design: Avoca 26 Location: Brisbane Northern Suburbs Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 9May 03, 2015 9:32 am oneJohn For brick or brick veneer houses, often the windows are sized to match half-brick widths. That helps the brickwork stay even around them. That tends to make them approximately multiples of 120mm in width. In terms of "plastered right up to the glass" - this sounds like those windows may have in-line reveals. A&L is one company that does this. In this case, the reveals are shrunk by design so that they line up with the inside of the aluminium frame. That way you don't see much of the aluminium frame from the inside. Humm... this is new to me and actually sounds like what has happened... how do I find out what company the windows came from? Will have to research this in-line reveals more. Builder: Coral Homes Home Design: Avoca 26 Location: Brisbane Northern Suburbs Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 10May 03, 2015 9:49 am Here's a picture from A&L windows showing their construction. They market it as a premium feature, but I don't know it makes a lot of difference. The windows will usually have the manufacturer name on them somewhere, often marked onto the catch handle on slider widows. Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 11May 05, 2015 8:15 pm Sounds like A&L windows. They make spin about how their inline reveal system is better, but I think there is more cons with it. For starters standard blind sizes wont fit, and as already mentioned if the carpenter isn't made aware of using A&L windows then he will surely frame the opening too big. All your windows will seem 30mm smaller from the inside than plan dimensions, the measurement on the outside will appear bigger and more like the plan sizes (typically 10mm bigger as it is industry knowledge that a 1200 wide window is 1210 wide and so on). This is to suit bricks Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 12May 06, 2015 11:40 am Avoca26 Hello Homeoners. I'm currently in the process of building a home and have run into a weird problem. So on our building plans it show that our windows come in sizes of 600mm, 900mm, 1500mm, 1800mm, 2400mm & 3000mm which seems to all be pretty standard window measurements. But the other day I was measuring up for our blinds and they were all smaller ranging from 35mm to 90mm throughout the whole house.. Is this normal because I have never come across this and have been told by our builder "that's just how we do things and every builder is going to have different window sizes" this just sound ridiculous Are the builders obligated to fix this or are we stuck with odd sized windows and have to get everything custom made?? Hi Avoca, This is very common - we're constantly supplying blinds for new houses. House plans are great to get quotes from, but you'll find when it comes to measuring the windows for actual size they will differ. Measurements on house plans are generally rounded, and often windows aren't exactly square (although they will appear so to the eye). Here is a video to give some tips on how to measure windows once your architraves are in: http://www.homeblindsaustralia.com.au/content/how-to-measure-windows-for-blinds-plantation-shutters If you're interested in measuring and installing blinds for yourself, you'll find you can order custom made blinds online for similar prices to ready made blinds. I hope that helps! Naomi Re: Advice Please: Window size differnt to house plans 13May 06, 2015 8:33 pm oneJohn Here's a picture from A&L windows showing their construction. They market it as a premium feature, but I don't know it makes a lot of difference. The windows will usually have the manufacturer name on them somewhere, often marked onto the catch handle on slider widows. oneJohn.. you were bang on with your answer. the windows are definitely A&L. so looks like no off the shelf blinds for us. Builder: Coral Homes Home Design: Avoca 26 Location: Brisbane Northern Suburbs All sorted guys. 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