Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Oct 09, 2014 8:11 pm Hi all, I am told by our builder that the window manufacturer does NOT recommend installing their sliding stacker door recessed into a concrete slab. The stacker door is 2.4m tall and 3.6 m wide. Is there a reason they would say this? Does the concrete slab have to be made thicker or reinfored under the recessed bit in the slab? Thanks in advance. Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 2Oct 09, 2014 8:36 pm Hi we have stackers same height and its corner stacker too.. And it's rebated/recessed (synonymous?) into slab - check my thread. I just requested and builder did it --- Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 3Oct 09, 2014 11:02 pm There is many reasons why it's not recommended but it's certainly possible. It will cost more, and it needs to be included in the certification. The reasons for and against are many but if you really want it you will find it all out during certification. Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 4Oct 10, 2014 7:34 am We had both of ours recessed. Cost a couple of hundred each and we had to acknowledge the potential "maintenance issues". You have to keep the track clean or the doors will jam up and that's a bit harder to do being recessed. Nothing a regular vacuum won't solve. Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 5Oct 10, 2014 3:18 pm mycl Hi all, I am told by our builder that the window manufacturer does NOT recommend installing their sliding stacker door recessed into a concrete slab. The stacker door is 2.4m tall and 3.6 m wide. Is there a reason they would say this? Does the concrete slab have to be made thicker or reinfored under the recessed bit in the slab? Thanks in advance. As others have said, it's only a drainage issue. The slab is recessed to take a subsill or drain to go under the door sill, then the sill itself is aligned with the floor + floor covering. If it get blocked, or it's not deep enough, and it is exposed (not under the roof line), then you will have water in your home. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 6Oct 12, 2014 7:20 pm Thanks for all your responses. Been considering other brands ... any recommendations? Has anyone used these? AWS: http://www.awsaustralia.com.au/vantage/ ... iding-door http://www.awsaustralia.com.au/vantage/ ... iding-door Rylock: http://www.rylock.com/uploads/pdfs/Prod ... D_V142.pdf Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 7Oct 12, 2014 7:31 pm ed @ ecoclassic As others have said, it's only a drainage issue. The slab is recessed to take a subsill or drain to go under the door sill, then the sill itself is aligned with the floor + floor covering. If it get blocked, or it's not deep enough, and it is exposed (not under the roof line), then you will have water in your home. Ed Hi Ed I assume that if it is exposed then there's the danger of water, but if not, it is only dirt and therefore stringent maintenance of cleaning to ensure it doesn't clog up of dirt. Our alfresco has a waste point of water does go through.. Can't imagine this to happen unless I trip over with a bucket of water in hand.. Our doors look great, and once the 12mm flooring and beading is on, then it would be good enough to roll a ball over from inside to outside.. Once decking has been installed Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ --- Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 8Oct 12, 2014 8:26 pm MyH1Login ed @ ecoclassic As others have said, it's only a drainage issue. The slab is recessed to take a subsill or drain to go under the door sill, then the sill itself is aligned with the floor + floor covering. If it get blocked, or it's not deep enough, and it is exposed (not under the roof line), then you will have water in your home. Ed Hi Ed I assume that if it is exposed then there's the danger of water, but if not, it is only dirt and therefore stringent maintenance of cleaning to ensure it doesn't clog up of dirt. Our alfresco has a waste point of water does go through.. Can't imagine this to happen unless I trip over with a bucket of water in hand.. Our doors look great, and once the 12mm flooring and beading is on, then it would be good enough to roll a ball over from inside to outside.. Once decking has been installed http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/mryrse/onlot234/AD7DAFD3-4EFB-4BB3-A1BF-2D7014967AB5.jpg Thanks for the pics ... Do you have any close up pics of the sill? Would it be like this? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ How easy/hard/expensive would it be to do this flush sill? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 9Oct 12, 2014 8:34 pm Funny you used those images - they were exactly my questions before signing tender with these very expensive doors. To be honest, I let my insanity go... And just trusted the builder on how they were going to install it. So after tender and the build began, I haven't looked into the fine detail. I can say though that I'm pretty sure it doesn't look like those images. What I can say is my SS used to do all sorts of custom houses and worked on rebates often - so lucky for me the builder okay'd our request to rebate based on the architectural knowledge our SS was able to work with the builder on. SS worked with engineer and door manufacturer to get the right rebate space and it's worked a treat. Here are the doors when they are open: http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/mryrse/onlot234/CD116EC5-3AA4-4DC4-8A2A-30F27B3D3A64.jpg Here's the rebate: http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/mryrse/onlot234/3E215A5C-19EF-471A-AD8C-3FC6B4F8960F.jpg --- Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 10Oct 13, 2014 8:08 am MyH1Login ed @ ecoclassic As others have said, it's only a drainage issue. The slab is recessed to take a subsill or drain to go under the door sill, then the sill itself is aligned with the floor + floor covering. If it get blocked, or it's not deep enough, and it is exposed (not under the roof line), then you will have water in your home. Ed Hi Ed I assume that if it is exposed then there's the danger of water, but if not, it is only dirt and therefore stringent maintenance of cleaning to ensure it doesn't clog up of dirt. Our alfresco has a waste point of water does go through.. Can't imagine this to happen unless I trip over with a bucket of water in hand.. Our doors look great, and once the 12mm flooring and beading is on, then it would be good enough to roll a ball over from inside to outside.. Once decking has been installed http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/mryrse/onlot234/AD7DAFD3-4EFB-4BB3-A1BF-2D7014967AB5.jpg Hi M, You will have no problem because you have decking over a lower floor level. The water can pass under the decking, the other illustrations on this page refer to a door with equal levels inside and out, these require a drain under the door sill to carry away the water. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Sliding stacker door - any reason why it can't be recess 11Oct 13, 2014 8:22 am ed @ ecoclassic Hi M, You will have no problem because you have decking over a lower floor level. The water can pass under the decking, the other illustrations on this page refer to a door with equal levels inside and out, these require a drain under the door sill to carry away the water. Ed Appreciate this so much Ed! --- Waiting for the interest rates to go down is also waiting for the building prices to go up, you will likely lose. Perhaps you can get the builder to lock up stage, but… 4 3713 Sure looks like the type of track that I fitted to my house. My supplier said that the underside has a tray which drains to the front. They cut vertical slots in it. So as… 6 7941 I’m in a similar position except I’m after sliding 3 stacking doors. I am on a second-story apartment of which the balcony would not adequately fit any bi-fold or… 5 16254 |