Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Mar 03, 2013 8:28 pm Hi there, we bought our old house last August and moved in October. Have been renovating since, and am now starting on the outside of the house. Stormwater is now in, so we can finish putting the boards and baseboards on the bottom of the existing weatherboards. These are our windows... at some point both windows opened but the previous owners had closed one side of the window up with putty. And when painted they did not prime or paint properly as all the paints are now starting to peel on the north facing windows.. the other windows (apart from the front of the house) are all newer (around 1980's wooden windows) when the extension out the back was completed. The beading needs to be replaced around the edge of the window. http://imageshack.us/g/690/wp20130302010.jpg/ I'm worried about when stripping the middle beads that the whole window will come apart, but will be very careful with this... any tips on how to avoid these issues? Also, what would it cost roughly to replace something like this? The frame looks in sound condition, it's really just the windows but rough estimates for both would be great. In wood, not aluminium. My plan is to strip all the existing and old paint off, fill any gaps and holes with agnews water putty, sand and paint 3 coats of dulux weathershield. I could just roughly sand what's there now, as it's all completely not flaking off, but we'll be here for a while so might as well start again and do it properly. Re: old casement windows - 1955's 2Mar 04, 2013 11:11 am And you are in for a bugger of a job. Been there done that with my unit about twenty five years ago except they were all double hung and not casement like yours. Using a couple of spatulas will get down into the gaps so you can pry the window open which makes it easier to sand them. I'd look at using a paint remover rather than trying to sand down through all the layers. You will spend a lot of time getting these back to raw timber and even then you will still end up with old windows just cosmetically improved. I'd get a quote for new windows and weigh up the new cost vs how many hours you'll spend stripping sanding and painting the old ones. Stewie Re: old casement windows - 1955's 3Mar 04, 2013 4:53 pm Yeah, there are only 2 that are like this. More than happy to spend the work doing it. Apart from the beading, the rest of the wood is in great condition. I'm using paint stripper on it, so it comes off pretty easy, just time consuming to scrape it all off. Once it's down to a decent layer, I'll give it a sand. Once the beading is done, I reckon they'll come up looking pretty damn good. Just a matter of filling in all the gaps etc. But yes, a quote is still a good idea. Even if it's $1000 (probably way more) there are so many more things we can do with that money, so would prefer to just do it ourselves. Re: old casement windows - 1955's 4Mar 05, 2013 11:05 am Money aside you will get a lot of satisfaction when you have finished painting them. I know I did when I'd finished mine. Just watch out for lead paint too in old houses. The paint stripper is a good way to go. Good luck and post some after shots too. Stewie Re: old casement windows - 1955's 5Mar 05, 2013 11:20 pm Hi Jonas. That isn't beading that is falling out, it's the old putty. You really need to remove the old putty and re do it. Nowadays you use glazing beads and silicone, but in the old days they used linseed putty to glaze windows. It is a real art to be able to glaze a window with putty. I'd actually remove the window sashes from the frame to make cleaning them up easier. One of the pictures shows a cleat has been screwed to the face of the window which indicates that the mortise and tenon joint has come loose at some stage. If you really want to do it properly I'd remove all the glass, then if the joints a loose I'd tap them open a bit then re-glue and clamp them up. You can wedge them or dowel them to help hold them together and then re-glaze. If the timber in the mortise and tenon joints is too far gone you may need to replace them completely. It's a nice project but one worth doing properly if you want to be able to use the windows long term. All the best. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: old casement windows - 1955's 6Mar 07, 2013 11:53 pm Thanks! Yes I will investigate glazing beads and silicone... so just beading and then put silicone on the back of it so it sticks to the window and is sealed? And just cut the beads on a 45 degree angle? would you go with hardwood or pine? All the wood looks to be in pretty good condition and once I remove the putty, the glass doesn't move and the wood seems sturdy. But I won't have a good chance to work on it until the weekend so I'll try to finish one and figure out how difficult it is to do> My father in law suggested putty but by the sounds of it sounds very hard. How much do you think each of these window sashes would cost (not replacing the frame as it's in good condition. Re: old casement windows - 1955's 8Mar 12, 2013 9:42 pm go to www.woodworkers.com.au they have new cedar windows for around $600 they have an online catalogue, we are going to use them for our build, cheers Russ... Re: old casement windows - 1955's 9Mar 13, 2013 1:01 pm Thanks for this, the sills and frames are in great condition, and the windows aren't too bad so I think I'll just putty them up and go from there. great site though. 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