Browse Forums Windows & Doors Questions about different glass type 21Oct 23, 2012 10:23 pm We had our windows installed the other day. Is there any way to tell that the glass is actually 6.38 laminated? I've tried to judge the thickness but can't really discern. There is a sticker on each pane that says A grade laminated safety glass, but not sure if that would mean correct thickness. My Knock down and Rebuild thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=54685 Our Building Blog http://ourknockdownrebuild.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Questions about different glass type 22Oct 23, 2012 10:25 pm doczim We had our windows installed the other day. Is there any way to tell that the glass is actually 6.38 laminated? I've tried to judge the thickness but can't really discern. There is a sticker on each pane that says A grade laminated safety glass, but not sure if that would mean correct thickness. The minimum thickness of laminated glass is 6.38mm. It would cost more to make it thinner. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Questions about different glass type 23Oct 24, 2012 1:14 am Hi Ed, We were at the Adelaide Home Show over the weekend and there was a display there selling uPVC double-glazed windows. They had a "cube" made up of their product, say around 500mm each side with a "hatch" on the front. This hatch was very well made, it had some sort of locking mechanism towards the top and bottom and what appeared to be rubber / silicon seals. In the box they had an iPod connected to an amplifier and speakers. When the door was open you could hear the awful (showing my age here ) head-banging rap music at a very unpleasant volume level*. When the door was closed and secured there was NO noise to be heard, it was a very impressive demonstration of their product. We are looking to get "Thermally improved double glazed" aluminium windows in our build. Do you think that these would have similar performance as the uPVC windows ? Thanks, P_D. * Yes, Any level of rap music is too loud, but the volume in this demonstration was way too loud to even play your Frank Sinatra music at !!!!! . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Questions about different glass type 24Oct 24, 2012 7:57 am Hi PD If their box stopped all the sound you should: -
or b) Have you ears tested or c) Ask them what type of glazing was used (unlikely to be standard). We have a similar box in PVC using standard glazing, it doesn't stop all the sound, but makes a massive difference. We don't do PVC right now for all sorts of reasons, so the box has been put away, but we are looking at having one in aluminium. Our aluminium window rates Rw 34.5, so it will have a massive sound stopping power too. Ask your supplier for the Rw (or STC) of their window with standard glazing, but also check their air infiltration in WERS. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Questions about different glass type 25Oct 24, 2012 9:08 am ed @ ecoclassic Hi PD If their box stopped all the sound you should: -
or b) Have you ears tested or c) Ask them what type of glazing was used (unlikely to be standard). Hahahahahahahahah !! Love your work Ed !! I actually did a), But the sound setup did appear too be stand-alone with no additional wiring heading off to the frame anywhere, as a silly old f@rt, b) is a possibility but must confess that I didn't think to ask about c) !! This is the second home-show I've seen this mob at so possibly they travel around, next time there is a home show in Melbourne it might be worth checking them out to get an expert opinion on them !! Cheers, P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Questions about different glass type 26Oct 25, 2012 4:23 pm ed @ ecoclassic doczim We had our windows installed the other day. Is there any way to tell that the glass is actually 6.38 laminated? I've tried to judge the thickness but can't really discern. There is a sticker on each pane that says A grade laminated safety glass, but not sure if that would mean correct thickness. The minimum thickness of laminated glass is 6.38mm. It would cost more to make it thinner. Ed Ok thanks Ed My Knock down and Rebuild thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=54685 Our Building Blog http://ourknockdownrebuild.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Questions about different glass type 27Oct 26, 2012 2:33 am Thanks Ed. useful info. I will be in Melbourne on th 5th nov and plan to pop in to your showroom to check out your windows. (Are you open, being the day before cup day? Long weekend??) PD, I saw the same boom box display at the Perth home show on the weekend, and was impressed by what I heard...or didn't hear?? Now that has me looking into double glazing. Just comes down to $$$ Thank for the feedback guys! Re: Questions about different glass type 28Oct 26, 2012 6:59 am yogi72 Thanks Ed. useful info. I will be in Melbourne on th 5th nov and plan to pop in to your showroom to check out your windows. (Are you open, being the day before cup day? Long weekend??) PD, I saw the same boom box display at the Perth home show on the weekend, and was impressed by what I heard...or didn't hear?? Now that has me looking into double glazing. Just comes down to $$$ Thank for the feedback guys! Hi, No, we are not open, but I can meet you there. Thanks Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Questions about different glass type 30Nov 26, 2012 10:26 pm Hi Ed A question for you about sound reduction glass again. Your company has quoted windows for me with 2 glass options. The first is 4/12/4 which I believe has Rw 34.5 ( I think that is correct). The other option is 4/9/8.38. Can you tell me what the Rw value? would be on this option, and what noticeable difference can I expect between each option? How does this compare to single glazing with 5 mm clear float glass? By the way, I was impressed with your windows. They look to be good value for money. Hoping to place an order this week! Thanks, yogi Re: Questions about different glass type 31Nov 27, 2012 5:59 am yogi72 Hi Ed A question for you about sound reduction glass again. Your company has quoted windows for me with 2 glass options. The first is 4/12/4 which I believe has Rw 34.5 ( I think that is correct). The other option is 4/9/8.38. Can you tell me what the Rw value? would be on this option, and what noticeable difference can I expect between each option? How does this compare to single glazing with 5 mm clear float glass? By the way, I was impressed with your windows. They look to be good value for money. Hoping to place an order this week! Thanks, yogi Hi I don't have data for 5mm, but 6mm is RW 31 (that is glass performance which can only be lowered in a frame). our 4/9/8.38 is Rw 39 (whole window performance). They say 10dB is very noticeable, so it really depends on how sensitive your ears are to determine which you need. Thanks Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Questions about different glass type 32Feb 05, 2013 6:21 am I have always believed double glazing is effective at least in part because it has an air gap. These guys think so too. "The formula for reducing noise is to create a large airspace between the 2 windows, using 6.38mm laminated glass and acoustic seals." source:http://www.stopnoise.com.au/about-secondary-glazing.php?Sound-Reduction-4. Also, we use a lot of low e glass on reccommendation and I have certainly found it very effective on hot days. The energy efficiency assessors like it for other reasons. Time to do more homework. I will investigate further. cheers to all Re: Questions about different glass type 33Feb 05, 2013 6:55 am leighton I have always believed double glazing is effective at least in part because it has an air gap. These guys think so too. "The formula for reducing noise is to create a large airspace between the 2 windows, using 6.38mm laminated glass and acoustic seals." source:http://www.stopnoise.com.au/about-secondary-glazing.php?Sound-Reduction-4. Also, we use a lot of low e glass on reccommendation and I have certainly found it very effective on hot days. The energy efficiency assessors like it for other reasons. Time to do more homework. I will investigate further. cheers to all The best acoustic glazing involves very thick glass, and air gap only helps if it is over 100mm, but it is the glass that makes the difference. The larger the air gap the lower the heat insulation... 12mm is perfect. Low-E has it's problems, but the one benefit is reducing solar heat gain. Nowhere else in the world is it sold in single glazing, only Australia, for the reasons explained elsewhere. We supply it in double glazing, where it shields 80% of the incoming solar heat gain. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 yep you need a joint, foam is easiest, will look fine once rendered with a joint. 2 5241 Hi, have purchased a house with 2 single garage doors. The Centre pillar one side sits proud to the other. Can I change 2 doors into one. Please see picture. 0 6353 Hi All, This is our second home build and first time with a custom builder. They are small builder and have built some houses with good quality. They tender and color… 0 586 |