Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Feb 11, 2012 10:42 pm Hi All We are looking to put stacker doors in the open planing living/dining/kitchen leading into the alfresco area of our new home. With the tracks that the doors sit in I have seen where they sit flush with the floor level. In order to achieve this look do the tracks have to be recessed into the concrete slab or how is it done? Sorry I am completely clueless Thanks Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 3Feb 12, 2012 7:37 pm A builder can recess the track easily even once slab layed (concrete can be cut). But most will drop your alfresos levels, so you get a slight step down. Also most of the aluminium extruded tracks will have a step down. So as hard as I tried I ended up with some compromises in my stackers. Slab poured 21/04/2011 Frame finished 27/05/2011 Moved in 07/11/2011 Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 4Feb 12, 2012 7:57 pm We are going T&G Floorboards but want a seamless look from outside/ inside. The alfresco floor will be exactly the same level as the internal floor so I dont want the tracks to be sitting on top of the slab as with stackers they are quite high and wide. Therefore think they will need to be recessed a little. Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 5Feb 12, 2012 7:59 pm Charnley Hi All We are looking to put stacker doors in the open planing living/dining/kitchen leading into the alfresco area of our new home. With the tracks that the doors sit in I have seen where they sit flush with the floor level. In order to achieve this look do the tracks have to be recessed into the concrete slab or how is it done? Sorry I am completely clueless Thanks It can be done with a rebate in the slab... but if it's not under cover you need to include drainage in the rebate. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 6Feb 12, 2012 9:22 pm Thanks Ed. Yes Completely undercover so no drainage needed Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 8Feb 12, 2012 10:02 pm We are having that done, but that part of the slab is new, so when it was poured, a recess was done for an under track for drainage which drains below the slab. Then the actual track itself, which has drains to the outside to the under track. The end effect is a track that is level with the floors outside and in. And we had to have drainage even though the outside area is under cover. Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 10Feb 13, 2012 12:37 pm Thanks for your responses guys. Will look at putting the drainage in, better to be safe than sorry especially with the wood floors. Would not be too happy if they got damaged just because we did'nt put drainage in. A least now I can get it included on the plans that the track needs to be recessed into the slab. Would love to see a pic of yours when they are done PHL. Thanks All Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 11Feb 13, 2012 7:01 pm Charnley A least now I can get it included on the plans that the track needs to be recessed into the slab. Would love to see a pic of yours when they are done PHL. Thanks All I'll remember to take some photos when I'm next on site; was actually there today. Might have to take a photo of the section they used as an installation guide before they installed it, as now you can't really see the channel under the lower track. Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 12Feb 14, 2012 6:54 am Charnley Thanks for your responses guys. Will look at putting the drainage in, better to be safe than sorry especially with the wood floors. Would not be too happy if they got damaged just because we did'nt put drainage in. A least now I can get it included on the plans that the track needs to be recessed into the slab. Would love to see a pic of yours when they are done PHL. Thanks All If it is fully sheltered, you won't need drainage, provided that the slab has a slope away from the door. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 13Feb 17, 2012 11:31 pm PHL Charnley A least now I can get it included on the plans that the track needs to be recessed into the slab. Would love to see a pic of yours when they are done PHL. Thanks All I'll remember to take some photos when I'm next on site; was actually there today. Might have to take a photo of the section they used as an installation guide before they installed it, as now you can't really see the channel under the lower track. Really interested in this, even a camera-phone photo would be great to give us a visual idea ! Thanks, P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 15Feb 18, 2012 5:28 pm PHL Rather than post a poor photograph, this is the system we have. Thanks for that, although whoever designed those graphics should be shot !! It's hard to get a really good look at the system with it flashing like it does ! Anyhow, I get the general idea, and it seems like it's a proprietary system for AWS doors. I'll get my door dude and also my builder dude to look at that as it seems that at this stage AWS are in NSW only Cheers, P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 16Feb 18, 2012 6:24 pm Heres some pics of my flush mounted stackers from the inside - closed Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ from the inside - open Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ from the outside - note timber supporting the frame Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ from the outside - packers used to get the levels right Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ We had to cut some concrete away from the slab to take the width of the frame - that only took an hour ( with the right tools) Just make sure that the door people have the correct thickness of the floor covering including any underlay/subfloor so they can get the height right. And make sure they measure the door aperture AFTER the concrete has been cut NOT before. We used Packers for our doors but we had too many issues so next time will try Rylock or Trends Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 18Feb 22, 2012 8:47 am Okay, finally remembered to take photos. http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o563/PHL2012/IMG_0063.jpg The slot drain is just below the tracks in the above photo. As you can see, the drains are internal to the track, which then goes to the Al channel below, then drains to the slot left in the Hebel. Not sure whether they will tile over the gap, or leave in as a precaution in case the deck gets wet. http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o563/PHL2012/IMG_0062.jpg View from inside; they have not levelled the new portion of lab that was poured, hence the height difference. The bamboo should come level with the track. http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o563/PHL2012/IMG_0061.jpg This is from the outside; screed for tiles has not been done, nor are the tiles, hence the height. Had to be tile because of flame zone. Update with photos in Photobucket. Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 19Feb 22, 2012 9:06 am PHL Okay, finally remembered to take photos. http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o563/PHL2012/IMG_0063.jpg The slot drain is just below the tracks in the above photo. As you can see, the drains are internal to the track, which then goes to the Al channel below, then drains to the slot left in the Hebel. Not sure whether they will tile over the gap, or leave in as a precaution in case the deck gets wet. Thanks for that, very neat !! Just my $0.02, but if I was you I'd get them to leave the slot visible so there would be some drainage in case you hosed the area for any reason. P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Stacker Door and Flush Tracks 20Feb 22, 2012 10:29 pm They started tiling today; noticed that they have left the level of the tiles slightly lower than the track, and would appear to be leaving the gap. In actual fact, I feel the gap is not necessary as overflow will hit the track, and get channelled under anyway. Sure looks like the type of track that I fitted to my house. My supplier said that the underside has a tray which drains to the front. They cut vertical slots in it. So as… 6 7901 The unit normally clips into a metal plate screwed to the wall, either plate is not flush, or unit not hooked in and could be hanging from the pipes partly, either might… 2 15791 Okay, then the choice is really about the build quality of the door itself which means the brand name. Sorry I can't recommend one or the other so best to rely on comments… 5 3260 |