Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Nov 25, 2011 1:41 pm Hi all, we’ve got a peculiar problem.. the passage which goes to our ensuite is only 873mm wide and on plan there’s supposed to be a 820mm door going into the ensuite. The carpenters have installed a 720mm door and when I pointed it to the site supervisor, he admitted that a mistake has been made and was more than happy to replace it with a 820mm door. But, he also mentioned that since the passage is only 873mm, a 820mm door won’t look good cause there’ll be no architraves on the sides. So it’s better to have a 720mm door. I still have to get back to him on this, but am confused on which option to go with as I don’t know how the 820mm will look without the architraves.. Any thoughts? Does anyone have any photos with such a door in a similar location? Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 2Nov 25, 2011 2:09 pm There is a third option that you might like (but the builder probably won't). You have 873 mm width with a 820 mm door. That still gives about 28 mm per side. Allow a few mm for the door and this may reduce to 25 mm per side. So, the third solution is to use an architrave that is cut down to 25 mm (or whatever it takes to fit). This is what I would go for. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 3Nov 25, 2011 6:12 pm Standard frame opening for an 820 door is 865-870, If they slam the jambs that will leave you a few mm each side that they can put some quad down as they have done already. As long as they keep it even on both sides it will look fine, no arcs required. Cheers Edit, Just looking at your pic again, does the CSD go back beyond the hinged door? If it does i'd say leave it as it is to avoid the problem of having a door swinging off a CSD frame. At least as it is there is a couple of studs for the door to swing off. Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 6Nov 26, 2011 1:07 am Casa2 There is a third option that you might like (but the builder probably won't). You have 873 mm width with a 820 mm door. That still gives about 28 mm per side. Allow a few mm for the door and this may reduce to 25 mm per side. So, the third solution is to use an architrave that is cut down to 25 mm (or whatever it takes to fit). This is what I would go for. Not sure if the builder will do this. Might have to check with the SS. mgilla Just looking at your pic again, does the CSD go back beyond the hinged door? If it does i'd say leave it as it is to avoid the problem of having a door swinging off a CSD frame. At least as it is there is a couple of studs for the door to swing off. Pardon my ignorance, but what's a CSD ? 1sthome If the rest of the house has architraves then I'd keep them but get them trimmed down and a custom sized door. Yes, the whole house has architraves, but the only door options are either 720mm or 820mm Thanks a lot for your replies.. so we should definitely go for a 820mm door rather than a 720mm. Just a bit worried that it might look a bit odd (aesthetically) as there won't be much wall on the sides. Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 7Nov 26, 2011 1:43 am Hi, I think it fits the space and looks fine as is. If all the other doors in the house have arcs I would definitely keep it so it's all uniformed. CSD = cavity sliding door mimi Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 8Nov 26, 2011 2:02 am mimi23 Hi, I think it fits the space and looks fine as is. If all the other doors in the house have arcs I would definitely keep it so it's all uniformed. CSD = cavity sliding door mimi Doh ! thanks for the clarification mimi23.. I agree with you, the current door keeps everything looking uniform.. mgilla Just looking at your pic again, does the CSD go back beyond the hinged door? If it does i'd say leave it as it is to avoid the problem of having a door swinging off a CSD frame. At least as it is there is a couple of studs for the door to swing off. mgilla.. The CSD does go back beyond the hinged door, but just checked the frame pics and there's a stud between the CSD frame and the wall so the door hinges will go on the stud, which should give it enough support ? This is how the frame looked when viewed from inside the ensuite: Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 9Nov 26, 2011 2:42 pm I would prefer to see the stud between the jamb stay, then having the jamb fixed directly to the CSS frame. I have always used a 720 door on wet areas, except laundrys. and have never felt or wished I'd put a wider door there. Unlike bedrooms or laundrys you don't need that extra width to get furniture in. Also by keeping it as it is, it means you have a trump up your sleeve. You never know you might be able to trade it in for a dishwasher. Cheers mgilla Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 11Nov 26, 2011 7:34 pm Casa2 There are 770 mm wide doors. Just another option. Not a bad option casa2.. Not sure if the SS will go with this as the plan has the 820mm door & 720 has been installed by mistake/convenience and its only a minor difference from the current door and the 770. Will be going to site tomorrow to finally make up my mind.. Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 12Nov 27, 2011 12:18 pm I would still go for the 820 mm door with architraves, cut down on the sides, with no quads. This will give you as nice wide door, the finish will match the rest of the house and it will be done neatly. And it's what it should have been, according to the contract. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 13Nov 27, 2011 8:37 pm You will only end up with about 15mm of arc on each side once you allow for the quirk. Not quite matching the rest of the house when the other doors have 68mm arcs. And trust me, CSD's have enough issues without a door being hung directly from the frame. Really I don't see any benefit in having an 820 door on your ensuite. Give them every indication you want it made as per plan, then hit them up for a dishwasher or a clothes line if you keep it as it is. Re: 820mm door without architraves or 720mm with architraves 15Nov 28, 2011 9:09 am mgilla You will only end up with about 15mm of arc on each side once you allow for the quirk. Not quite matching the rest of the house when the other doors have 68mm arcs. And trust me, CSD's have enough issues without a door being hung directly from the frame. Really I don't see any benefit in having an 820 door on your ensuite. Hi mgilla, couldn't agree with you more, we've decided to keep the 720mm as it'll match the rest of the house. mgilla Give them every indication you want it made as per plan, then hit them up for a dishwasher or a clothes line if you keep it as it is. Love the way you think .. wish I would have thought of it earlier, but don’t think the SS will buy it now Thanks everyone for your help .. I do like the CA glue and activator idea but like you said, working time in non existent. I use the sika PU glue but it needs to be clamped firm. I had a joint move… 4 8116 I already have the doors and architraves installed as pictured. My question is which size n type of skirting would go with the architraves? I originally wanted a winder,… 0 2905 |