Browse Forums Windows & Doors Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 22Aug 31, 2011 9:08 pm My tuppence worth... My friend walked into/through a glass door (see, both terms used for the pedantic folk ) the glass broke and she ended up having plastic surgery to fix up her face, and my daughter ran towards and bounced off a glass door as she thought there was an opening, she's 4, she was left with a nasty bump on head and an irate mum.... Stickers went on poste haste after the incident. Our stickers are simply a strip of vertical White thin strips (A&L windows) Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 23Aug 31, 2011 10:56 pm If toughened glass is used, which is required for all glass sliding doors, then the cut hazards are removed. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 24Sep 03, 2011 10:50 am A tradie we know fell from his ladder, it was only a little fall from a really low height but a year later he's now learning to walk again. Unfortunately crap happens sometimes, if the OH&S markings are meant to be there and your view is more important then be prepared to accept the consequences if something does go wrong. Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 25Sep 03, 2011 1:43 pm My son had a friend over years ago and the friend was a very LARGE boy. My DS went outside and the friend detoured via the loo. He went running full pelt out the door thinking it was open and bounced back to the other side of the room. I was amazed that the door didn't break considering the force with which he hit it. No damage, just a huge shock to all of us. This door had the stickers on it which made no difference. My sister in law wasn't so lucky and went through a glass door with lifetime scarring to her legs. Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 26Sep 09, 2011 9:15 am My cousin went through a full height window sleep walking one night (minor cuts only) and a friend of mine walked into our sliding door when we had a party at our place (he had drunk ALOT of whisky - ha ha) In both cases, asleep and very very drunk, the stickers would not have helped one bit!!! Your doors, your risk, your view......you will make the right decision for YOU... good luck Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 27Sep 18, 2011 2:43 pm Althom Why would you want to do something that makes your house less safe and opens you up for civil action in case of an accident? First person to walk into/through the glass will end up taking your house away for the price of a couple of small white circles and stripes. Ditto for me the marks are there for safty reasons... Best Price Wardrobes Sliding door robes | Walk in robes Deco panel | Mirror | Melamine 26 to 28 Cottage lane Hackham M: 0402 927 376 http://www.bestpricewardrobes.com.au Trade welcome Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 28Sep 19, 2011 9:16 am I went through my local shopping centre and street side shops on the weekend, looking at the glass windows and glass doors. Less than half have window markings (I ignored those that had permanent stuctures like shelves on the other side). Surely public areas are more concerning when it comes to people walking into glass. And in case some say the rules may have changed recently, the shopping center is about 1 year old. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 30Sep 20, 2011 6:48 am Casa2 I went through my local shopping centre and street side shops on the weekend, looking at the glass windows and glass doors. Less than half have window markings (I ignored those that had permanent stuctures like shelves on the other side). Surely public areas are more concerning when it comes to people walking into glass. And in case some say the rules may have changed recently, the shopping center is about 1 year old. Totally illegal. The standard for commercial building is even more stringent, and calls for a continuous obscure band of 75mm deep... a recent project was failed by a building inspector for failing to satisfy the commercial standard for manifestations. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 31Dec 06, 2011 2:13 pm The little round stickers will be coming off my sliding doors when I move in. I've run into sliding doors at full felt as a kid and they survived that, and that was our old door. The glass in my new doors is loads thicker so I'm pretty confident that anyone stupid enough to not look to see if the handle is closed or not deserves to get a sore nose from it. I'll shout them a beer afterwards for the laugh. As for the bigger risks, it's a risk I'm willing to take. I'm quite happy not wrapping everyone up in bubble wrap and turning the place into a nanny state. There are risks that you need to judge are worthwhile or not. As someone else stated, safety glass should prevent any serious injuries to those not paying enough attention. Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 32Dec 06, 2011 4:03 pm Sir Snagger ... As for the bigger risks, it's a risk I'm willing to take. Taking risks is entirely up to you... but if it's a third party that gets hurt, make sure you are well insured as this is the standard, the law in construction. Silly as they may be, they will be in the right and you will be wrong. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 33Dec 06, 2011 4:16 pm Ed it would be something I would double check if buying a ready-built house now that this conversation had been aired. Would be a real turnoff because it's not built to Aus Standards. Honestly I can't see what all the fuss is about, it's only a tiny, unobstrusive decal that you might see for the first hour or two after that you don't even notice it. Then again, maybe I'm missing something but they will 'definitely' stay on all doors in my house, legal implications aside, I couldn't live with myself if someone was injured due to my negligence. Just my 2 cents worth!! Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 34Dec 06, 2011 4:31 pm HappyCamper_au Ed it would be something I would double check if buying a ready-built house now that this conversation had been aired. Would be a real turnoff because it's not built to Aus Standards. Honestly I can't see what all the fuss is about, it's only a tiny, unobstrusive decal that you might see for the first hour or two after that you don't even notice it. Then again, maybe I'm missing something but they will 'definitely' stay on all doors in my house, legal implications aside, I couldn't live with myself if someone was injured due to my negligence. Just my 2 cents worth!! That's the issue HCau... it's the law and it's about doing the right thing. I have heaps of people ask if we can supply without the decals (manifestations), it's "no" every time. They made the law for a reason, like the law that says you must drive on the left... any fool can see you driving on the right... but any accident is your fault, no ifs, no buts. And it goes for homes that are not to current standard because they were built 40 years ago... same risk in today's standards, same accountability. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 35Dec 06, 2011 4:54 pm In total agreeance Ed! The decals here are a pair of intertwined V's...had to go and look because as previously, I don't even notice them. Just did a tally and I have 12 lineal metres of decals that will definitely be staying, I want to be able to sell my house one day and not have to replace all that glass to get a sale, couldn't imagine how much that would cost? Also with such a litigious society these days I've got more important things than sitting in a court house waiting to have the pants sued off me. Why would you put your kids, or your friends kids, at risk? I couldn't imagine having to live with the guilt if one of them was hurt, kids are too precious!! Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 37Dec 07, 2011 12:25 pm Casa2 No need to replace the glass. You can buy the decals and put them on yourself. Very cheap. You can do that, but the standard calls for permanent markings. I know many window companies use removable stickers, but they don't comply with the standard. Ours are inside the double glazing. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: removing OH&S markings from sliding doors 38Dec 07, 2011 3:57 pm We just had all of our sliders replaced due to water damage, from being left on slab for to long. We asked for the decals to be put back on, if we hadn't of asked i'm sure they wouldn't have even mentioned it. They just stuck them on. we have a standard size and often we have a lot of variety to choose 0 3564 We are looking for sliding doors which are 5 metres tall. There are a few European options. Any manufacturers in Australia or distributors? 0 5038 Pls help! 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