Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Jul 03, 2011 12:14 am our plans have a pivot entry door so we are just sussing out styles. hubby and I both like the Corinthian Sunburst door (http://www.corinthian.com.au/Uploads/Do ... UNWSGL.jpg) - the only thing that bothers me is that since we won't be able to have a security screen (easily - may retrofit one at a later date) that the glass panels would make it easy for someone to break in? or is it not really an issue? the other one I like is the Infinity with the vertical panels - they look smaller and thinner so not so easy to smash...maybe...or is this really a non-issue? Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 2Jul 03, 2011 12:24 am We got a pivot with glass panels, the way we see it is if they want up break in they will. We have an alarm (very loud one days DH who set it off today). As soon as they're in the alarm will go off, this will st least attract attention so hopefully they'll pee off The theory is right anyway... My building thread : viewtopic.php?f=31&t=36059 Paid initial deposit 24/7/10 Tender appointment 20/8/2010 Flooring and tile appointment 25/9/10 Colour and Electrical appointment 13/9/10 December site start delayed Site start (YAY!) 17/1/11 Slab pour 1/2/2011 Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 3Jul 03, 2011 7:39 am Hi Ellie, We have a pivot door & are getting a security screen fitted next week. Co is supplying a metal frame that will be fitted to brick opening & screen door will be fitted to this frame. As for breaking glass & opening door, you could always have a security key operated deadbolt fitted as well as you normal lock maybe? Neville Got a life, just can't find it! Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 4Jul 03, 2011 1:40 pm I don't know about the security side of things, but I just wanted to say that is a gorgeous door!! Custom downslope build Build thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=61873 Blog http://www.buildingroyalmanor.blogspot.com.au Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 5Jul 03, 2011 1:43 pm We have double Corinthian INF4 doors, so lots of glass. The glass is toughened, so much stronger than the glass in a window and pretty difficult to break. I figure if someone wants to get in, they'll break a window instead. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 6Jul 03, 2011 2:14 pm We have one, key doesn't get left in the door in case someone decides to break the glass and unlock it. But really, if someone is going to break in there is plenty of glass around the house they can break to get in. Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 7Jul 05, 2011 11:01 pm Love that door,gorgeous. Out of interest is it alot more exy to have a pivot door installed Block bought 1st RBC X! 2nd Ventrua,Keeper! Pstart 18/7/11 Ethwks jan 2012 Slab Bricks- finished 7/6 Roof Trusses 15/6-cbond 21/7 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=41185 Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 8Jul 07, 2011 2:18 pm omg the pivot door IS almost $4K.... DH & I nearly fell off our chairs! we are modifying our plans to include a standard hinged wider door at 1020W at a cost of only $800 instead! we also chose a different design with less front glass - the corinthian slimlite 202 Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 9Jul 23, 2011 6:47 pm Hi guys. Thanks for this thread, all interesting. I think I agree that if people are going to break in, they will find ways through windows. I was also concerned about how to attach a security / flyscreen door to the front door... (we are in bushfire area)... We are currently looking into the Corinithian pivot doors too - the Infinity range. ivory_kitten - so is it that all the Corinthian doors come in a 1020mm width door as well? I have been looking at the Corinthian website and couldn't see any middle of the range doors (eg. 1020mm). Do you recall which ranges? SunshineT's Build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34585 Designs start: 4/12/09 DA: 5/7/11 Demo: 22/12/11 Slab: 24/2/12 Keys: 31/8/12 Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 10Jul 23, 2011 11:30 pm Hi Sunshine, Yes most of the Corinithian doors (and also Hume too) can be specially made in a 1020mm wide door. I am based in Darwin so our supply is from Adelaide, I just gave Corinthian directly a call to suss it out as it was easier to get the info straight from the horses mouth. They were most helpful. The person I spoke to said the Infinity range would be expensive to custom order because it involves so much timber, so if you want to keep costs down go for a veneer type door. Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 11Jul 24, 2011 10:15 am Thanks ivory_kitten!! That is most helpful. Our tender price includes a 1020mm door or a 1200mm door - whichever we choose. It's just that I couldn't find a 1020mm on the website. But I will do as you did, and give them a call direct on Monday. (I am thinking the 1020mm door might be a better option - hinges are less trouble than pivots from what I have heard, and maybe easier to fit on a weather strip and flyscreen? Which are bushfire requirements for us). Thanks again! SunshineT's Build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34585 Designs start: 4/12/09 DA: 5/7/11 Demo: 22/12/11 Slab: 24/2/12 Keys: 31/8/12 pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 12Jul 24, 2011 1:32 pm How far forward does the security door have to be to accommodate the small part of the pivot door when open? Don't mean to be rude, but why would you spend extra on a pivot door, then cover it with a security door? If I was going to break in to someone's house, I wouldn't use the front door. Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 13Jul 24, 2011 1:56 pm Rups How far forward does the security door have to be to accommodate the small part of the pivot door when open? Don't mean to be rude, but why would you spend extra on a pivot door, then cover it with a security door? If I was going to break in to someone's house, I wouldn't use the front door. Yes, good point. We probably don't need a security door on the front. My DH said the same thing that he didn't want a security door. We do however need a fly screen. we are in a bushfire zone so all external doors need metallic fly screens SunshineT's Build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34585 Designs start: 4/12/09 DA: 5/7/11 Demo: 22/12/11 Slab: 24/2/12 Keys: 31/8/12 Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 14Jul 25, 2011 7:23 pm OK, just to update this thread & supply a bit more info, have taken a few pics of our door & screen. BTW, we did want a screen door to allow front door to be open & bugs kept out. Not that concerned with concealing main door. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Door & screen closed Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ To fit screen, a new frame was required to be made & fitted to brickwork. Got a life, just can't find it! pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 15Jul 25, 2011 8:18 pm ivory_kitten Hi Sunshine, Yes most of the Corinithian doors (and also Hume too) can be specially made in a 1020mm wide door. I am based in Darwin so our supply is from Adelaide, I just gave Corinthian directly a call to suss it out as it was easier to get the info straight from the horses mouth. They were most helpful. The person I spoke to said the Infinity range would be expensive to custom order because it involves so much timber, so if you want to keep costs down go for a veneer type door. We have a custom 1200mm door from Hume Doors. Extra hinges installed to support the door. It looks great! and IMHO achieves the wow factor usually associated with a pivot door (they all just tend be very wide), without the cost. Also, IMHO it would be a shame to put a screen in front. Practically speaking though - well, I'll let you know if I cave in and install one after we move in. Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 16Jul 25, 2011 8:21 pm hey nrh! Thanks so much for those photos. That fly screen doesn't look bad at all. Is it strong enough to act as a sort of security door too? DH and I were just talking today about how it will be good to be able to open the front door (but close the screen door) to allow the tunnel of air through the house for cross ventilation. And if it is lockable, then we can be in another part of the house without worrying about someone walking in (we have living upstairs). We are thinking now about the 1020mm doors. (Spoke to Corinthian today and as ivory said, they are custom made to that 1020mm size, but when hinged then they do accommodate a fly screen). hm... SunshineT's Build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34585 Designs start: 4/12/09 DA: 5/7/11 Demo: 22/12/11 Slab: 24/2/12 Keys: 31/8/12 Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 17Jul 25, 2011 9:44 pm Hi SunshineT, The screen is Amplimesh & has triple lock points so is very secure. Screening isn't that noticeable specially from inside as my son's dog found out - tried to go outside with door closed & ended up headbutting screen Main door is 2340x1200 so we needed a custom size screen door as they don't come standard in that size - $1600 Got a life, just can't find it! Re: pivot entry doors with glass panels safety/security 18Jul 25, 2011 10:00 pm thanks jimsy and nrh! so you guys both have 1200mm doors with hinges, not pivot? hm.. nrh - is that Woodlands Grey on the door frame? That is the colour we have chosen for all our windows, metal work etc. and we would use it on the fry screen too, if we decide to go that way... Quite undecided... SunshineT's Build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34585 Designs start: 4/12/09 DA: 5/7/11 Demo: 22/12/11 Slab: 24/2/12 Keys: 31/8/12 I ran into trouble finding a lock that would fit my particular door, like your situation with your pivot door. I wanted a safe lock that couldn't be messed with easily. 4 25613 Yes, they are sliding windows. There is a lock, however, I would prefer something that would make it safer. Would this be an overkill? 0 3564 |