Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Dec 09, 2009 10:04 pm Hey Guys, just noticed what could possibly be a mistake by our builder however i don't know what the norm is.. The below images show the lintel above our windows - should I be able to see the bottom of the brick?> It's been painted white however i think it looks terrible. Anyone understand the acceptable standards in this regard??? Photos of your lintel and brickwork above windows will help me compare. Your help plzzzz! Images: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Cheers [b]Contract signed 3rd May --> Handover mid FEB Re: Lintel too small? 3Dec 10, 2009 7:44 pm Hi there Can't really answer your question, but I suppose you should be able to find what you are looking for in AS 2047 (Windows in Buildings - Selection and Installation). I think you can look this up online in your local library for free; otherwise, you may need to buy it. There may also be some specific info by the window manufacturer (there should be some label on your windows left over hopefully, if you don't already know who the supplier is). Anyhow, that doesn't look right. What about calling your PCA and checking?? You can also call or email the Australian Building Codes Board. If they can't answer, they will point you to the right body. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Lintel too small? 4Dec 10, 2009 7:48 pm Nice bricks dvs_dk. They look very much like mine Our windows have just been put in but I didn't take too much notice about the window area and how the bricks were done around the frames. I'll have to look at the photos and look at the construction again. It doesn't look right but I'm no building expert. Re: Lintel too small? 5Dec 10, 2009 7:52 pm It's very hard to tell how our bricks have been done from the photos we took. I'm curious to know though. Have you looked at other homes to compare and to see whether they are done like yours? Re: Lintel too small? 6Dec 10, 2009 8:10 pm Hi dvs_dk, I've had a look through my pics, and this is the best I can come up with! It's now too dark (and wet) to venture out to take some more for you. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ I have 3 holes in the middle of my bricks, and you definitely cannot see them underneath where the lintel is. I am unsure what the acceptable tolerances are. I'd be pointing it out to your SS anyway. Henley - Wilshire Mk 3 ... I love my house!! Site start: 4th Feb 09 Handover: 10th Sep 09 Blog: http://stormygirlscastle.blogspot.com/ Build Thread: viewtopic.php?t=7166 Re: Lintel too small? 7Dec 10, 2009 8:16 pm Lex Hi there Can't really answer your question, but I suppose you should be able to find what you are looking for in AS 2047 (Windows in Buildings - Selection and Installation). I think you can look this up online in your local library for free; otherwise, you may need to buy it. There may also be some specific info by the window manufacturer (there should be some label on your windows left over hopefully, if you don't already know who the supplier is). Anyhow, that doesn't look right. What about calling your PCA and checking?? You can also call or email the Australian Building Codes Board. If they can't answer, they will point you to the right body. Hey Lex, Tried looking this up but couldn't really find an answer. I might be looking in the wrong spot..! [b]Contract signed 3rd May --> Handover mid FEB Re: Lintel too small? 8Dec 10, 2009 8:18 pm Dollar Nice bricks dvs_dk. They look very much like mine Our windows have just been put in but I didn't take too much notice about the window area and how the bricks were done around the frames. I'll have to look at the photos and look at the construction again. It doesn't look right but I'm no building expert. Thanks Dollar, yeah i'm very curious to see other homes now - and if they are similar to mine, i wonder if the builder should be responsible for either replacing all lintels around winders (sounds like a huge job) or fill and render the bottom of brick...! [b]Contract signed 3rd May --> Handover mid FEB Re: Lintel too small? 10Dec 10, 2009 8:42 pm dvs_dk Lex Hi there Can't really answer your question, but I suppose you should be able to find what you are looking for in AS 2047 (Windows in Buildings - Selection and Installation). I think you can look this up online in your local library for free; otherwise, you may need to buy it. There may also be some specific info by the window manufacturer (there should be some label on your windows left over hopefully, if you don't already know who the supplier is). Anyhow, that doesn't look right. What about calling your PCA and checking?? You can also call or email the Australian Building Codes Board. If they can't answer, they will point you to the right body. Hey Lex, Tried looking this up but couldn't really find an answer. I might be looking in the wrong spot..! Hi dvs_dk, Oh, what exactly were you trying to look up? I think the standards must be bought, and the ABCB is an industry/govt body which you could call in the morning. (Are you saying that you found the AS on the web ? If yes, pls send me the link!!) But maybe just call your PCA instead, and definitely report this to the SS. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Lintel too small? 11Dec 11, 2009 8:07 am Lex dvs_dk Lex Hi there Can't really answer your question, but I suppose you should be able to find what you are looking for in AS 2047 (Windows in Buildings - Selection and Installation). I think you can look this up online in your local library for free; otherwise, you may need to buy it. There may also be some specific info by the window manufacturer (there should be some label on your windows left over hopefully, if you don't already know who the supplier is). Anyhow, that doesn't look right. What about calling your PCA and checking?? You can also call or email the Australian Building Codes Board. If they can't answer, they will point you to the right body. Hey Lex, Tried looking this up but couldn't really find an answer. I might be looking in the wrong spot..! Hi dvs_dk, Oh, what exactly were you trying to look up? I think the standards must be bought, and the ABCB is an industry/govt body which you could call in the morning. (Are you saying that you found the AS on the web ? If yes, pls send me the link!!) But maybe just call your PCA instead, and definitely report this to the SS. Your right, i have to purchase the standards There is mention of AS2047 on external sites however not something i can follow. Lex, i did a search within H1 and came across this post: after reading a post by 'wanted' (4th last post) it seems brickwork cannot overhang the lintel by 25 mm. Would you agree i am reading this correct? [b]Contract signed 3rd May --> Handover mid FEB Re: Lintel too small? 12Dec 11, 2009 10:10 am The lintels will be the correct width. I think what may have happend here is the the bricklayer left more the the standard 40mm cavity. Therefore the bricks are pretuding more around the windows. This can be measured and compared to other houses next door. Because the bricks are pretuding more the window is more set back into the house. So now in order to no see a whole above the window which is what would happen if you bring the lintel forward they have push the lintel back. It is either that or they were just lazy. Sometime when you push the lintel forward the bricks need to be chipped at the back. Or it could also be the way the lintels where bend. There might not be a sharp bend in the steel so they have to move the lintel back because the bricks will not set flat. Re: Lintel too small? 13Dec 11, 2009 12:51 pm Hmmmm, sorry dvs_dk, I'm far from being any expert, I just know that little bit that you/we can look up the standards or call for help ... I would really really really call the PCA since these guys' education means that they know the BCA standards (although they may opt to relax or ignore them quite a bit, but that's a whole other story). My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Lintel too small? 14Dec 12, 2009 6:15 pm dvs_dk, I checked ours and no holes can be seen. The metal bit covers the bricks. Re: Lintel too small? 15Dec 14, 2009 6:31 pm Wrong, wrong, WRONG!! Either the frame/lintel or the bricks are out of whack. We had the same thing happen with a set of bifolds. I pointed it out to our SS and told him I wasn't accepting it. I could imagine spending the next 20 years sitting in our al fresco room seeing that and having it annoy the crap out of me. The brickwork got pulled down and re-done. Re: Lintel too small? 16Dec 15, 2009 8:00 am Thanks for all your replies. I spoke to our SS who said it was acceptable! mmm Every home i have checked out seems to have the holes covered up by the lintel - some are slightly exposed but nothing as bad as mine.. yet. I wonder if this affects the structure rather than just looking like C4ap. I think i may have found an online reference to the BCA (not the actual BCA doc) http://electronicblueprint.com.au/wiki/ ... ght=lintel [b]Contract signed 3rd May --> Handover mid FEB Re: Lintel too small? 17Dec 15, 2009 8:14 am OK, this is from there (quote): Lintels and Arch Bars Lintels and arch bars shall be built in over openings in excess of 1.0 metre accordance with the Drawings, Building Regulations and relevant Standard (*AS 3700). AS 3700 - yuo could go to your local library and look this up online. Then, if your is outside tolerances: I would go and get a qualified inspector to have a look a this and write a report on this and any other issues. Any non compliance should be easy to spot for them and, because they should be independent, they would have no problems in putting that in writing. Since you are lucky to be in MELB, get Kevin! and good luck and keep us posted. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Lintel too small? 18Dec 15, 2009 8:16 am dvs_dk I spoke to our SS who said it was acceptable! mmm Acceptable….mmmmmm, great word that isn’t it, fits so many rights and wrongs. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Lintel too small? 19Dec 15, 2009 8:08 pm Off to the library tomorrow Also found another reference to the maximum overhang being 25mm - Mine seem more so off to house to measure..! Questions is just say its 26 or 28mm - worth getting if fix or not.. ** PAGE 24 ** http://www.thinkbrick.com.au/shadomx/ap ... 3268EF1D3C [b]Contract signed 3rd May --> Handover mid FEB Re: Lintel too small? 20Dec 15, 2009 8:10 pm Lex OK, this is from there (quote): Lintels and Arch Bars Lintels and arch bars shall be built in over openings in excess of 1.0 metre accordance with the Drawings, Building Regulations and relevant Standard (*AS 3700). AS 3700 - yuo could go to your local library and look this up online. Then, if your is outside tolerances: I would go and get a qualified inspector to have a look a this and write a report on this and any other issues. Any non compliance should be easy to spot for them and, because they should be independent, they would have no problems in putting that in writing. Since you are lucky to be in MELB, get Kevin! and good luck and keep us posted. Lex - can you pm Kev's number? [b]Contract signed 3rd May --> Handover mid FEB Not sure if that works? I was told the issue is the headspace clearance requirement on step 4. My builder is proposing shifting the beam 310mm towards the kitchen...I'm… 2 2444 It will be neat but you won't have much freeboard. At least they are not weep holes. Are you in a high intensity rainfall region? The regulatory slope is only required… 3 8240 Firstly, if your house is still under builder's warranty (10 years in Victoria) you should have no need to crawl into roof space but let the builder handle it, unless you… 3 5633 |