Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Jul 07, 2009 3:25 pm This may be an absoultely stupid question, but is it typical to double glaze the whole of the house or do people only focus on particular sections of the house? If the latter, how you do decide what part of the house to double glaze Our designer called last night and whants to start getting down to the nitty gritty things... I would prefer to do the whole house in double glazing but obviously cost is a large factor.... So, second question! If I specify double glazing and then go single or vice versa, does it affect anything like framing or what not? Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 2Jul 07, 2009 6:22 pm I would like to share our experience with double glazing. In total we have 23 windows, 2 sets of glass sliding doors and 2 sets of french doors in our proposed dwelling (work is due to commence on the 1st August! ). Due to the 5 star rating system that is in place in Victoria we were told that we had to have 12 of the windows, both sets of glass sliding doors and one set of the glass french doors double glazed to meet with the standards. We requested a price from the builder to double glaze the remaining windows and decided that it was worth the money to get them all done. It is costly but in the long run it will help with the cost of heating/cooling of the house. Sorry I can't help you with your second question! Wendy The stumps are in the ground! Builder due back on site on 2 September 2009!! Building Due to start around the 1 August 2009 360 metre Driveway rocked and ready! Contracts Signed On 30 June 2009 Take one day at a time Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 3Jul 07, 2009 8:07 pm Bam This may be an absoultely stupid question, but is it typical to double glaze the whole of the house or do people only focus on particular sections of the house? If the latter, how you do decide what part of the house to double glaze If you are working on a tight budget then double glaze the areas with high daytime occupancy and particularly large sections of glass. It is possible to tolerate having the bedrooms and utility areas such as bathroom and laundry a bit colder. Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 4Jul 07, 2009 8:40 pm bronco, thankyou Every personal experience help when it comes to making decisions. May I ask, was it a huge difference in price to get all the windows done? i.e. 40% more to get the remaining windows double glazed Thanks for that dymonite, based on that my living/dining/kitchen area is an area we definately have to do. And your right, Im not too fussed about the laundry/bathroom What about west facing bedrooms? Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 5Jul 07, 2009 10:00 pm Bam bronco, thankyou Every personal experience help when it comes to making decisions. May I ask, was it a huge difference in price to get all the windows done? i.e. 40% more to get the remaining windows double glazed Thanks for that dymonite, based on that my living/dining/kitchen area is an area we definately have to do. And your right, Im not too fussed about the laundry/bathroom What about west facing bedrooms? We have a north facing bedroom with double glazing and south facing bedroom with single glazing and although it is a cooler during the day, I discern no difference in sleeping comfort. Our body temps fall naturally during sleep anyway. West facing bedrooms are more likely to overheat in summer than anything else. During winter, you get a little boost of solar heat gain before sunset. Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 6Jul 07, 2009 11:17 pm Hi, we had just 1 window double glazed. My son's room faces full west. The window is about 2m wide. It cost us an extra $250, and the wall structure wasn't modified as far as I know. We have only just moved in so I don't know how noticable it will be come summer. I'm also putting in blinds and curtains as a multi-layered defence. Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 7Jul 07, 2009 11:55 pm Carmel I'm also putting in blinds and curtains as a multi-layered defence. fantastic idea, i think people underestimate how awesome curtains are! as d69 said, ill hopefully go double pane/glaze on the busy areas, laundry/bathroom and even bedroom doesn't need it, youve got a doona for that; unless its adjacent a roadway 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 8Jul 08, 2009 12:16 am Isn't tinting/shading more beneficial for west facing windows? We have a living area that's the width of the house and the strongest coldest winds come from the south so in that particular case I wish we had gotten double glazing on the southern side. Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 9Jul 08, 2009 6:28 am Partially double glazing is like partially insulation. Every single glazed window is thermal sinkhole regardless in which direction it faces. Although curtains keep some heat but they don't substitute insulated glazing. The partially double glazing idea is a highly theoretical with little practical value as it creates cold spots with create discomfort, heat loss and it can cause condensation and growth of hazardous mould. It is true that builders overcharge for insulated glazing but it is a competitive market at the moment and it is better to cut the size of the house to fit the budget than compromising good insulation. Change is what we need! Can we? YES WE CAN!!!!! Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 10Jul 08, 2009 7:47 am windowexpert Although curtains keep some heat but they don't substitute insulated glazing. Click here for relative R-values for single, double and triple glazing and cellular shades: viewtopic.php?p=262728#p262728 Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 11Jul 08, 2009 7:53 am windowexpert it creates cold spots with create discomfort, heat loss and it can cause condensation and growth of hazardous mould. The cold spots in my house are the laundry, bathroom and south facing bedrooms. We don't spend any time there during the day. At night the cellular shades are pulled and the insulation of the system is greater than triple glazing. Insulating glazing units can minimise condensation but not eliminate it. The inner insulated pane is warmer but is still relative cold to the warm moist air inside. If it falls below dew point then condensation forms. It all depends on how cold it is outside and how hot you make it inside. Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 12Jul 08, 2009 8:43 am Even the laundry is part of the thermal envelope. Do keep the door shut all the time? Do you stay home to pull your things in time? Do you have no insulation in the laundry wall? Do your curtains or blinds have a airseal on the perimeter? The laundry is a potential space for high humdity and if it cools down the air can't contain the moisture until it is vented out and condensation can form. The olny time when condensation occurs on IGU's is when humidity is to high and it is time to ventilate the room!! As it has been said earlier the IGU is always there. Again it is all highly theoretical and the fee those people charge for their theoretical calcs is better invested in a thermal envelope without thermal sinkholes Change is what we need! Can we? YES WE CAN!!!!! Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 13Jul 08, 2009 9:29 am Bam bronco, thankyou Every personal experience help when it comes to making decisions. May I ask, was it a huge difference in price to get all the windows done? i.e. 40% more to get the remaining windows double glazed The original quote to get the windows glazed that need to be done for requirements was about $6900. To get to entire house done it was nearly $10,000. Wendy The stumps are in the ground! Builder due back on site on 2 September 2009!! Building Due to start around the 1 August 2009 360 metre Driveway rocked and ready! Contracts Signed On 30 June 2009 Take one day at a time Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 14Jul 08, 2009 9:55 am windowexpert The olny time when condensation occurs on IGU's is when humidity is to high and it is time to ventilate the room!! And let all the cold air in again! Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 16Jul 08, 2009 11:30 am dymonite69 windowexpert The olny time when condensation occurs on IGU's is when humidity is to high and it is time to ventilate the room!! And let all the cold air in again! And you don't ventilate? Change is what we need! Can we? YES WE CAN!!!!! Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 17Jul 08, 2009 11:54 am bronco3429 The original quote to get the windows glazed that need to be done for requirements was about $6900. To get to entire house done it was nearly $10,000. so thats an extra 3k to go double glazing? thats alright how many windows did you have? 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 18Jul 08, 2009 12:35 pm dymonite69 windowexpert The olny time when condensation occurs on IGU's is when humidity is to high and it is time to ventilate the room!! And let all the cold air in again! Heat exchanger. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 19Jul 08, 2009 1:05 pm Casa2 dymonite69 windowexpert time to ventilate the room!! And let all the cold air in again! Heat exchanger. Do you know how much a quality one costs? I enquired at one point. Hard to find a good non-commerical one. Even harder to find an installer to know how to tack one on an existing HVAC system. I recall reading a study on HRVs for Canadian climates. For the amount of energy saved, you need a certain number of heating degree days before they are cost-effective. Re: Double glazing - to the whole of house or parts? 20Jul 08, 2009 3:46 pm bronco3429 In total we have 23 windows, 2 sets of glass sliding doors and 2 sets of french doors in our proposed dwelling (work is due to commence on the 1st August! ). Due to the 5 star rating system that is in place in Victoria we were told that we had to have 12 of the windows, both sets of glass sliding doors and one set of the glass french doors double glazed to meet with the standards. We requested a price from the builder to double glaze the remaining windows and decided that it was worth the money to get them all done. It is costly but in the long run it will help with the cost of heating/cooling of the house. bronco3429 The original quote to get the windows glazed that need to be done for requirements was about $6900. To get to entire house done it was nearly $10,000. Thats not too bad... so $3k for 13 windows and double french doors... Now I have to see how many windows our house has... At the moment we have: 15 windows 2 large windows (approx 4mx2m or something) on the east side of the house 2 bifold doors (approx 4m again) on the east side of the house windowexpert It is true that builders overcharge for insulated glazing but it is a competitive market at the moment and it is better to cut the size of the house to fit the budget than compromising good insulation. Ideal... yet not Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! I need to replace some lengths of aluminum shower frame but I can't seem to find any suppliers of this stuff. Neither the blue or orange home centers carry these things.… 0 5403 This is one of the reasons I decided to go overseas for my double glazed windows. 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