Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Jun 30, 2009 5:47 pm Hi everyone We have just received our first lot of WRC windows and doors for the new house we are owner-building from our window supplier and I realised that they have been double glazed with Argon rather than air! We never specified argon filled DGUs and the window schedule always referred to an air gap. As far as I am aware, we were also only ever quoted based on air... We have only received about a third of the windows so far (holding off on having the rest delivered until we need them) and the standard setup appears to be 5mm clear/12mm argon/5mm clear...we will have a couple of very large windows being glazed on site, which i think are something more like 10mm clear/14mm air/10.38mm low-e (comfort plus). Does anyone have any advice as to whether I should point this out to the suppliers and/or whether I should be concerned at all about this? Any advice would be appreciated!! Thanks Adam Re: Windows with Argon instead of air - should i say anything?! 2Jun 30, 2009 6:35 pm BuildingACT Hi everyone We have just received our first lot of WRC windows and doors for the new house we are owner-building from our window supplier and I realised that they have been double glazed with Argon rather than air! We never specified argon filled DGUs and the window schedule always referred to an air gap. As far as I am aware, we were also only ever quoted based on air... We have only received about a third of the windows so far (holding off on having the rest delivered until we need them) and the standard setup appears to be 5mm clear/12mm argon/5mm clear...we will have a couple of very large windows being glazed on site, which i think are something more like 10mm clear/14mm air/10.38mm low-e (comfort plus). Does anyone have any advice as to whether I should point this out to the suppliers and/or whether I should be concerned at all about this? Any advice would be appreciated!! Thanks Adam Argon is slightly better than air for insulation. Over time it slowly leaches out and is replaced by air. It's a small benefit. Some DGU manufacturers do argon as standard. No need to be concerned at all... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Windows with Argon instead of air - should i say anything?! 3Jun 30, 2009 7:13 pm ed @ EcoClassic Argon is slightly better than air for insulation. Over time it slowly leaches out and is replaced by air. It's a small benefit. Some DGU manufacturers do argon as standard. No need to be concerned at all... Ed Thanks Ed! At th moment I'm concerned bout 1001 things, so glad it's one less thing to worry about! haha Re: Windows with Argon instead of air - should i say anything?! 5Jun 30, 2009 10:42 pm Casa2 Argon for the price of air. You lucky fish. Do fish breath argon?! haha Guess I won't bring it to anyone's attention then! Thanks again guys. Re: Windows with Argon instead of air - should i say anything?! 6Jun 30, 2009 11:07 pm ed @ EcoClassic BuildingACT I realised that they have been double glazed with Argon rather than air! Adam Argon is slightly better than air for insulation. Over time it slowly leaches out and is replaced by air. It's a small benefit. Some DGU manufacturers do argon as standard. We got more double glazed units that we specified ≈ Builders can't get anything right Ed, I would fill a bit ripped off that I paid more for a rare gas that eventually got replaced by garden variety air. Based on the graph you once posted it would seem the additional benefit is related to the gap. viewtopic.php?p=219730#p219730 Re: Windows with Argon instead of air - should i say anything?! 7Jun 30, 2009 11:13 pm dymonite69 ed @ EcoClassic BuildingACT I realised that they have been double glazed with Argon rather than air! Adam Argon is slightly better than air for insulation. Over time it slowly leaches out and is replaced by air. It's a small benefit. Some DGU manufacturers do argon as standard. We got more double glazed units that we specified ≈ Builders can't get anything right Ed, I would fill a bit ripped off that I paid more for a rare gas that eventually got replaced by garden variety air. Based on the graph you once posted it would seem the additional benefit is related to the gap. viewtopic.php?p=219730#p219730 Yes the gap is most important... argon is a definite benefit, but it does not take the place of good window design. The EcoClassic window with air (and maybe one other brand)... achieves a higher rating (lower U value) than all other aluminium windows with argon. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Windows with Argon instead of air - should i say anything?! 8Jun 30, 2009 11:32 pm ed @ EcoClassic Yes the gap is most important... argon is a definite benefit, but it does not take the place of good window design. The EcoClassic window with air (and maybe one other brand)... achieves a higher rating (lower U value) than all other aluminium windows with argon. Ed Hmm...ours are all Western Red Cedar framed....with mainly 12mm gaps (argon filled it would seem!! ) How do I find out the u-values..just out of interest? Re: Windows with Argon instead of air - should i say anything?! 9Jun 30, 2009 11:36 pm BuildingACT ed @ EcoClassic Yes the gap is most important... argon is a definite benefit, but it does not take the place of good window design. The EcoClassic window with air (and maybe one other brand)... achieves a higher rating (lower U value) than all other aluminium windows with argon. Ed Hmm...ours are all Western Red Cedar framed....with mainly 12mm gaps (argon filled it would seem!! ) How do I find out the u-values..just out of interest? http://www.wers.net - look in the residential tab... under your supplier's name. But yours will be better than any aluminium... timber is as good as PVC windows when it comes to energy... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 AFAIK, flashing is a minimum standard. Out of curiosity is your window glass stamped with AS requirements in any of the corners of each pane? Im almost certan if theyre… 2 6296 I had an old shower unit that broke on me and when I took it off, there were only 2 water pipes, instead of the normal 2 water pipes and a shower head pipe. S o I… 0 36959 How do you remove one of these ceiling air con vents? 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