Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Jun 18, 2009 1:16 pm I live in a doublebrick house near a main road and am interested in investigating options for replacing some of the bedroom windows to reduce noise. Currently 2 of the bedroom have sliding aluminium patio doors (6mm laminated) as they open onto a balcony (all the bedrooms are on the upper story), the other 2 bedrooms have standard aluminium sliding windows(3mm float). The house was built in the early 80's so the frames are pretty useless on both thermal and accoustic fronts...there's not alot of difference in the sound levels between open and closed. There's no way they seal properly. Most of the research I've done suggests wide gaps (80~100mm) for double-glazing for accoustic purposes, I've acheived a big reduction downstairs by adding a seconadary pane of 6mm laminated glass to the sidelights of my front door (wooden frames)...this was pretty easy as they are fixed. I installed them myself and used a 100mm gap...I was able to seal them properly and has made a big difference to the sound levels. My question is if I want to acheive such wide gaps on patio sliding doors and the other bedroom windows (assuming they have to open, and the bedrooms with windows dont neccesarily have to be sliders) can I do this with the products available? Most of aluminium profiles I've seen don't look like they accomodate such big gaps...they seem more designed for the smaller 12~20mm thermal gaps. My reveals look deep enough to easily accomodate these size gaps. I did look at 'Soundout' secondary glazing but not sure whether it would look that great, nor am I interested in any of the acrylic secondary glazing options. Re: Windows for Sound Control 2Jun 18, 2009 4:17 pm tivoenator I live in a doublebrick house near a main road and am interested in investigating options for replacing some of the bedroom windows to reduce noise. Currently 2 of the bedroom have sliding aluminium patio doors (6mm laminated) as they open onto a balcony (all the bedrooms are on the upper story), the other 2 bedrooms have standard aluminium sliding windows(3mm float). The house was built in the early 80's so the frames are pretty useless on both thermal and accoustic fronts...there's not alot of difference in the sound levels between open and closed. There's no way they seal properly. Most of the research I've done suggests wide gaps (80~100mm) for double-glazing for accoustic purposes, I've acheived a big reduction downstairs by adding a seconadary pane of 6mm laminated glass to the sidelights of my front door (wooden frames)...this was pretty easy as they are fixed. I installed them myself and used a 100mm gap...I was able to seal them properly and has made a big difference to the sound levels. My question is if I want to acheive such wide gaps on patio sliding doors and the other bedroom windows (assuming they have to open, and the bedrooms with windows dont neccesarily have to be sliders) can I do this with the products available? Most of aluminium profiles I've seen don't look like they accomodate such big gaps...they seem more designed for the smaller 12~20mm thermal gaps. My reveals look deep enough to easily accomodate these size gaps. I did look at 'Soundout' secondary glazing but not sure whether it would look that great, nor am I interested in any of the acrylic secondary glazing options. Your best choice is a second window inside your current reveal (popular, most effective and least cost of REAL windows solution). It's true that 80 - 100mm is the ideal but the real difference is minimal between that and a well designed window. Our window rates STC 34.5, which against a brick veneer wall at STC 39 is excellent. Nobody designs a window on its own that has 80mm air gap. Incidentally the ideal sound stopper would be a varying air gap and different glazing thicknesses... to stop the resonance. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Windows for Sound Control 3Jun 19, 2009 12:17 pm Ok, thanks Ed. One of the drawbacks I can see with installing a secondary window is how do you clean the existing window. When I investigated the Vantage Soundout windows the advantage of these appeared to be that they were a double slider, which means that each window can slide the entire width of the window therefore allowing you to clean the windows. Is this possible to achieve with a standard aluminium window? Re: Windows for Sound Control 4Jun 19, 2009 1:18 pm tivoenator Ok, thanks Ed. One of the drawbacks I can see with installing a secondary window is how do you clean the existing window. When I investigated the Vantage Soundout windows the advantage of these appeared to be that they were a double slider, which means that each window can slide the entire width of the window therefore allowing you to clean the windows. Is this possible to achieve with a standard aluminium window? Not sure who does this in aluminium, we have it in PVC... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 To my understanding early saw cuts are to control shrinkage cracks, so doing them now would be pointless. Control joints may reduce ugly cracking during periods of soil… 3 9858 Hi group, have some damage to the door frame and skirting board. It's a side door to the laundry area. Only has a security door. I had a termite inspection (note drill… 0 5053 Hi All, First time poster. I was hoping to get some advice on villaboard installation within a bathroom. 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