Browse Forums Windows & Doors Re: PVC or timber windows 2May 08, 2009 10:42 am tjilpi We are currently building an extension. I have read all the sales pitches on both products so understand the basics. They are both thermally good. Timber needs maintenance, PVC supposedly doesnt etc What I am wondering is if anyone has personal experience with PVC in their home. What are the down sides? Does it warp. Will it disintegrate over time? What is it's maximum life? Can you adjust them if your house moves? Basically, what is the bad about them and which is really preferable (assuming I understand timber needs maintenance). It's been around since the 1940s, the hardware is brilliant and supports adjustment. The European style windows have galvanised steel reinforcement and don't warp. You can buy windows that look good but don't last, so buy from a reputable supplier as you need to know the PVC material is high quality and lasts longer than the supplier's business. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: PVC or timber windows 3May 11, 2009 5:29 pm Dear Tjilpi,
It really comes down to what you are after. Timber or PVC is not the only option. There are composite products in the market that might meet your requirements. Timber has this nice warmth and adds to the interior design. On the other hand we have PVC which much more competitive in price but comes in a limited range of colours mostly white. From a thermal point of view it really depends on the supplier who can guarantee maximised performance. One composite option is the AliClad or timber-aluminium composite window and door system. It combines the low maintenance aluminium exterior with the thermal insulation and beauty of timber. If the freedom of design and sizes are important, than AliClad is your answer. If it’s about getting a thermal efficient solution in white and the white plastic look is not an issue I would definitely consider PVC. The quality of the PVC has improved in the past years and is much better for the Australian climate than it was. But looking at your love for timber you probably want to go for something that was especially designed for the Australian climate, is double glazed and overcomes the weakness of the timber by combining the best of two worlds – AliClad. Best regards
Re: PVC or timber windows 4May 11, 2009 5:47 pm Miglas Windows Dear Tjilpi, It really comes down to what you are after. Timber or PVC is not the only option. There are composite products in the market that might meet your requirements. Timber has this nice warmth and adds to the interior design. On the other hand we have PVC which much more competitive in price but comes in a limited range of colours mostly white. From a thermal point of view it really depends on the supplier who can guarantee maximised performance. One composite option is the AliClad or timber-aluminium composite window and door system. It combines the low maintenance aluminium exterior with the thermal insulation and beauty of timber. If the freedom of design and sizes are important, than AliClad is your answer. If it’s about getting a thermal efficient solution in white and the white plastic look is not an issue I would definitely consider PVC. The quality of the PVC has improved in the past years and is much better for the Australian climate than it was. But looking at your love for timber you probably want to go for something that was especially designed for the Australian climate, is double glazed and overcomes the weakness of the timber by combining the best of two worlds – AliClad. Best regards Kris, how does the Aliclad compare to the pvc in price? Brian Re: PVC or timber windows 5May 11, 2009 8:43 pm ElephantGuy Miglas Windows Dear Tjilpi, It really comes down to what you are after. Timber or PVC is not the only option. There are composite products in the market that might meet your requirements. Timber has this nice warmth and adds to the interior design. On the other hand we have PVC which much more competitive in price but comes in a limited range of colours mostly white. From a thermal point of view it really depends on the supplier who can guarantee maximised performance. One composite option is the AliClad or timber-aluminium composite window and door system. It combines the low maintenance aluminium exterior with the thermal insulation and beauty of timber. If the freedom of design and sizes are important, than AliClad is your answer. If it’s about getting a thermal efficient solution in white and the white plastic look is not an issue I would definitely consider PVC. The quality of the PVC has improved in the past years and is much better for the Australian climate than it was. But looking at your love for timber you probably want to go for something that was especially designed for the Australian climate, is double glazed and overcomes the weakness of the timber by combining the best of two worlds – AliClad. Best regards Hi Kris, I would be interested to know if the internal wood is prestained Steveo * Are we there yet ? Demolition has come and gone ! yippeeee..hang on that was months ago !! come on Mr Builder, dig a hole at least Finaly ! Hole Dug ! well done darren 20/06/2010. Slab is down ! Framing is complete 20/10/2010 we are progressing like a snail on heat - excited and determined but very very slow Steveo Re: PVC or timber windows 6May 11, 2009 11:51 pm Stegbar & Rylock also make the composite windows... Composite (aluminium & timber) prices are among the highest for windows. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: PVC or timber windows 7May 12, 2009 12:29 am ed @ EcoClassic Stegbar & Rylock also make the composite windows... Composite (aluminium & timber) prices are among the highest for windows. Ed Does that mean they are more expensive than pvc? Re: PVC or timber windows 8May 12, 2009 8:48 am ElephantGuy ed @ EcoClassic Stegbar & Rylock also make the composite windows... Composite (aluminium & timber) prices are among the highest for windows. Ed Does that mean they are more expensive than pvc? Yes... much more & about the same to slightly worse performance energy wise... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: PVC or timber windows 9May 12, 2009 2:00 pm Dear All,
Timber on the inside: Is pre-treated not finished as there are so many different possibilities. Other Composites: The other composite windows are working of a aluminium frame with a bit of timber attached. Apparently not comparable to what Miglas manufactures. Just compare the cross section view and than have a look at hardware and seals used. All important bits to understand the difference. AliClad Performance: If you narrow your view down to what the rating software comes up with it's probably true that PVC has a good insulation value with the composite slightly behind. If you look at the overall picture concerning, air infiltration, design flexibility, sizes, colours, durability, sustainability and looks you might come to another bottom line. The current software that rates windows simulates the thermal efficiency and does not necessarily reflect the true values that would come up if there was a thermal scan done of a home. The major weakness of the rating is currently that air infiltration and air movement is not considered or only a fixed value. Price: PVC is cheaper than other options, but generalising in one area is dangerous. The quality depending on the manufacturer can be quite significant. It really depends on what your demands are if the more expensive AliClad is a solution for your individual project. It's like deciding for a plastic chair or a leather couch - It really depends what your statement is and what you like.
Re: PVC or timber windows 13Jun 16, 2009 12:37 pm Credit where it's due. I personally have never heard a bad story about Stegbar, their product or their service. Even as industry rivals, we rate them pretty well. Good on them. Also I took a gander at the Miglas Aliclad air infiltration WERS data and it is indeed very impressive. The U-Value is not as ridiculously low as uPVC but not out of the ball park. Isnt it great to have such a choice of good window suppliers accross every ones taste and preference, be it aluminium, uPVC or timber. Paarhammer has to be my pick for timber. Best regards, Brad ------- yep sounds good make the footing bigger to to allow for the pipe in the middle 3 5286 Plumbers 'can be' plumbers, made all the worse by self certification which the building surveyor invariably accepts as proof of compliance! The good thing is that you know know. 3 3241 Depends... Brick veneer required the window to be attached to the house frame, this is usually achieved by screwing through the timber reveal into the frame. There are… 1 4614 |