Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Mar 23, 2009 11:27 pm We have timber sliding doors that have been installed in the family room to the outside. In the plans it has the sliding part on the inside, and the fixed panes on the outside. However they have been placed in the opposite way around. See pictures. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The 2 problems I have with this are: 1. on the inside, when you hold the handle and pull open, you're hand gets caught 2. The flywire will be on the inside of the house, not the outside. What do other people have? Do you have flywire on the inside or the outside? Is your sliding door on the inside or outside? Built Metr!con Soho. Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 3Mar 26, 2009 8:34 pm No this is definitely wrong. The fixed pane should be outside. How awkward. They have to change them as they are not on the plans tou signed off on. Stand your ground and get it fixed. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 4Mar 27, 2009 7:12 am Sorry to say the doors are ar$e about! Good pickup, and I'm sure the site guys will be truly embarressed by this one! Electrical Engineer... Don't hold that against me... And keen owner builder... Mainly the building part!! Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 5Mar 27, 2009 11:00 am Pretty sure this is a Canterbury door and also pretty sure it is correct. Sliding doors on the outside have a couple of advantages...
2 The dirt and flies congregate on the outside track. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 6Mar 27, 2009 6:50 pm Yes these are Canterbury Doors. My builder as well as Canterbury have told me these are correct. Canterbury apparently used to make them the other way around also, but they have stopped offering this option. They are wrong according to the plans - but I don't really see what I can do if the product manufacturer only makes these doors this way around. I don't like the look as they are at all, and I really don't like how you can get your hand caught as the photo shows. Flyscreen doors on the inside are also not what I wanted. Windows yes, doors no. Our laundry doors are aluminium and ARE the other way around. As in the sliding door is on the INSIDE. I understand that there are a couple of benefits having the timber doors as my photos show. Is that why the industry has changed what they offer? Built Metr!con Soho. Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 7Mar 27, 2009 7:00 pm The key here is this: Dyson They are wrong according to the plans If the plans that you signed off on have the sliding door on the inside then it has to be on the inside. There are only so many things you can research and this shouldn't be one of them - it's on the plans!!!! 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 8Mar 28, 2009 8:32 am Dyson Yes these are Canterbury Doors. My builder as well as Canterbury have told me these are correct. Canterbury apparently used to make them the other way around also, but they have stopped offering this option. They are wrong according to the plans - but I don't really see what I can do if the product manufacturer only makes these doors this way around. I don't like the look as they are at all, and I really don't like how you can get your hand caught as the photo shows. Flyscreen doors on the inside are also not what I wanted. Windows yes, doors no. Our laundry doors are aluminium and ARE the other way around. As in the sliding door is on the INSIDE. I understand that there are a couple of benefits having the timber doors as my photos show. Is that why the industry has changed what they offer? Likely they changed them because it's a better design for timber. lisanne The key here is this: Dyson They are wrong according to the plans If the plans that you signed off on have the sliding door on the inside then it has to be on the inside. There are only so many things you can research and this shouldn't be one of them - it's on the plans!!!! They are probably drawn as aluminium sliding doors. What is on the display? I guess you can cause a ruckus, depends what you want as an outcome. The hand catching is easily fixed if you ask your builder/Canterbury to install rubber bumper stops on the outside. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 9Mar 28, 2009 8:41 am Well, I certainly hope they're not wrong, because I have those exact same doors!!!! I'm telling you, though, if they were wrong,my DH would have picked that up in a second!!! I wouldn't have had a clue Plus, our (4th, and reliable) SS would not have let that slip through! I'll have to go back and have a look at the plans, though! Solidarity, not solidity.......The Lexicon of Life Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 10Mar 28, 2009 7:00 pm In our current house we have a sliding door and a fixed door (timber) and we had to have the flyscreeen and security door on the inside. The glass door slides across it outside when it's shut. (There was a particular reason why this had to happen but I can't remember it now). I was furious at first and thought how dumb this would look with the flyscreen on the inside. To tell you the truth I am use to it now and it really dosn't bother me at all anymore. THe only inconvenience is that you have to open the flyscreen door to open the outside door then shut the flyscreen door again. It's no big deal. It doesn't really look that odd, I mean nobody has ever noticed it nor commented on it (except me!). PS- my DH just told me that the door never had a track and was not designed for a security door to be attached, hence the door on the inside. www.themaxbuild.blogspot.com forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20717&start=300 www.leahspaperpassion.blogspot.com Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 11Sep 13, 2009 8:49 pm Dyson We have timber sliding doors that have been installed in the family room to the outside. In the plans it has the sliding part on the inside, and the fixed panes on the outside. However they have been placed in the opposite way around. See pictures. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The 2 problems I have with this are: 1. on the inside, when you hold the handle and pull open, you're hand gets caught 2. The flywire will be on the inside of the house, not the outside. What do other people have? Do you have flywire on the inside or the outside? Is your sliding door on the inside or outside? Hi Dyson, We have the exact same Canterbury bi part doors and they are installed in the same way as yours. We have the same issue where they show the doors installed on the inside on the plans but the doors are installed are on the outside in our house. I also thought they look strange with the doors on the outside, especially that the tracks are on the outside and will have a lot of dirt in them. Did you get yours fixed in the end? or is it the correct way of installing those bi part doors? [i]We built in Point Cook and are loving our new house. Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 12Sep 25, 2009 9:08 am These Canterbury doors are still the same. They are 'correctly' installed. I even went to Canterbury's showroom - it is the same there. My builder did upgrade us to timber flywire doors free of charge (from aluminium flywire doors) after we'd complained the door layout didn't match the floor plan. Very poor design I think. They have now added the flywire. Unfortunately this has made things worse. With the flywire door on the inside it exacerbates the issue of your hand getting caught. They protrude further out than the fixed window frames, even when fully open. I could foresee trips to hospital getting fingers re-attached!!! The only solution we could think of was to move the door stoppers inward to prevent this. Of course this makes the opening to walk through smaller. When we win the lottery we are planning to replace these with french doors. These sliding ones are a ridiculous. Built Metr!con Soho. Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 13Sep 29, 2009 1:57 am If they are the other way around, won't you have the same hand-catching issue when opening from the outside? And to avoid getting your fingers caught, can you pull the door, let go and let momentum finish opening it? If it's not fully open you can then push from the inside of the opening. We are having aluminium bi-part doors in our house, and I'm not sure which way they will be.. Metricon Riva 33 - http://herlihy-riva.blogspot.com Site start 15/03/2010 - Handover 23/12/2010 9 months and 8 days (284 calendar days) from site start to handover Re: Bi-part sliding doors and flywire 14Sep 29, 2009 7:38 am I have aluminium bi part sliding doors on my family room and the screens are on the outside - as far as I know it is always this way. 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