Browse Forums Windows & Doors Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 2Mar 11, 2009 4:57 pm "Your emotions are the slaves to your thoughts, and you are the slave to your emotions." — Elizabeth Gilbert Living in our new house. Currently scaping the land. Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 5Mar 12, 2009 7:19 am 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 12May 03, 2009 3:58 pm Hi, Everyone, I just joined this forum and I am in the process of selecting blinds. Your messages have been very useful. I am sold on honeycomb blinds, they make sense for both winter and summer. We put in double glazing a couple years ago and that experience taught me quite a lot about how the glazing industry works. We finished saving about 50% of cost on top quality double-glazing from Moen Glass. I hope I can do the same with blinds! dymonite69 - did you receive your blinds from Beautiful Blinds? Are you happy with them? Do you know if they were made by Turnils (Luxaflex)? I could not see anything about Beautiful Blinds chain control on Turnils site. Do you know who makes them? Is it much better than the standard cord? Jo - did you decide what to do? TIA, Goska Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 13May 04, 2009 9:22 pm Hi Goska, Email/phone Beautiful Blinds, they'll let you know what size window they recommend chain drives for. Merimy is VERY helpful. They told me that chain drives were unnecessary for windows smaller than sliding doors. After investigating B.Blinds, Luxaflex,Kresta, and Hunter Douglas (from Betta Blinds) fabrics I can say that Luxaflex quality is matched by no one. I bought Hunter Douglas (supposedly superior quality) for my kids bedrooms because they had a colour I like but I regret it. Their chord mechanism is beautifully smooth but the material is not consistent in it's thickness, and downright thin in places. In the daylight, with the blinds down, they look mottled as lots of light comes through in the VERY thin patches and less light comes through where the fabric is a better thickness. I guess you wouldn't notice so much if you chose light coloured blinds. Basically a waste of $1,500+. Cost $350 for one 85cmx1.2m blind I bought one blind from Kresta and tested it's washability fully immersed in water (they said NOT to immerse them). Absolutely no problems. So I've ordered honeycomb blinds for the whole house from them. Their fabric is durable, even thickness all over, and quite substantial in weight compare to the H.Douglas and they have some great colours. Kresta's price for the 85cmx1.2m blind was about $200 once they took their standard 30% off their "full price". Goska, love to know how you saved 50% on your double glazing. What secrets did you learn about how the glazing industry operates? Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 14May 04, 2009 9:39 pm glitterfaeriejo Hiya! We are building our house in WA ( Busselton, same weather as Perth just slightly more temperate) Its already started so double glazing is out ( never heard of it till i found this forum site ) Our rectangle shaped living room/kitchen has the long side North facing. With 2 lots of floor length windows that have a slide opening (left to right) and a sliding door. Had planned originally to have sunscreen roller blinds with a heat reflective tint on the glass. That will sort out summer sun, but what about keeping the heat IN in winter? So now looking at different options. Am getting a quote from luxaflex on the duette, but have been warned its expensive. Also found TURNIL?? on http://www.beautifulblinds.com.au do a honeycomb blind that acts as an insulator, but so far they dont seem to have anything in WA. Has anyone put in either of these? Comments... or are there other options apart from traditional curtins with pelmates? is the duette and the turnil blind same quality/finish ect...I will have toddlers. The lady at luxaflex totally scrunched the Duette in her hand and it was fine! Any help is muchly appreciated!!!! please, i had no idea it was going to be so hard! Jo xx we discovered there was a "vista" blinds in bunbury during the school holidays. they also do the honeycomb type of blinds. One thing the girl mentioned was they rate as high or was it higher than curtains and pelmet as insulation.( i suspect "as high") We got quotes for our main bedroom windows done in both hollands and also in the honey comb blinds. They don't have a huge variety of finishes. Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 15May 04, 2009 10:36 pm Hi, I spoke to people at Beautiful Blinds today. They are helpful but I am still trying to understand how the honeycomb blinds industry works. I am surprised that Hunter Douglas and Luxaflex blinds are different as Hunter Douglas is the parent company for Luxaflex (see http://www.hunterdouglas.com.au/). As nearly everything American is these days made in China (they have exported their almost entire manufacturing industry to China - apart from the automotive! (see what happened to it!)), I will have to assume that the difference in quality comes from the selection of the fabrics, and not where you get them from (as they are made by the same manufacturer). I was told by Beautiful Blinds person that all fabrics come from China while the blinds are assembled to order by Hunter Douglas/Luxaflex in NSW. So if you live in NSW your blinds will do a round trip to Tassie and back! I have also investigated Turnils and they are also part of the Hunter Douglas group. This seems to be a very small industry! Re double glazing - I had about 7 or 8 (!) quotes for our staircase and upstairs windows (the previous owner was an architect who designed the house for himself hence we have lots of windows - we like it but it is expensive on double glazing and blinds). I was just about to give up as it was far too expensive when the number 9 glazier offered to do the measure and installation while we ordered the glass. He charged $600 (2 people at $300) and that included removing old window panes. They worked all day on this job. I ordered the glass directly from Moen Glass (http://www.moenglass.com.au/products/doubleglazed) to glazier's dimensions. I did my homework and got advice from the manufacturer on what type of double glazing to get. Contrary to expectations most glaziers knew very little about double glazing and types of coating. Some tried to sell coated single glass as superior to double glazing! (they apparently make even more money on it) This approach saved us around $3000 on the average quote of $6000 from other glaziers. Worth the effort! So you need 2 things - live in Melbourne or Canberra (although Moen Glass might deliver elsewhere, I don't know, it is worth checking; in Melbourne delivery is free), and a willing glazier. And the final comment - double glazing is not expensive, it is the way the industry works that is the problem. Good luck with finding the right glazier! Margaret Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 16May 05, 2009 10:24 pm Thanks Goskan for the info on double glazing. So hard to get real, unbiased researched information. Luxaflex told me that their Duette material is manufactured "..in the USA by Hunter Douglas". I was told this twice by different Luxaflex people. However, the Hunter Douglas "Whisper" cellular blinds offered by other blind companies are most definitely different material to Luxaflex. I can only guess that H.Douglas produces different grades of fabric for different markets. In reponse to kexkez.. Honeycomb blinds are vastly better insulators than curtains with pelmets - see the Hunter Douglas web site, it tells you the comparitive insulation offered by different types of blinds and curtains. Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 17May 06, 2009 6:07 am sorry to hijack the thread but has anyone seen the windows that have almost like a venetian blind inside the glass? Hubby works in the glass industry and was telling me about this window - he said the sample he saw was fitted into a laundry door - it has a mechanism which allows you to open & close the blind but the actual blind is completely sealed inside the glass. He showed me the picture ages ago -
Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 18May 06, 2009 7:49 am Re double glazed venetians - I saw them when I was looking for affordable double glazing few years ago. I googled the term and found a few (there are more): http://www.vertilux.com.au/products/505.jsp http://www.qualital.com.au/integrated-blinds.html http://www.hunterdouglascommercial.com. ... inds/sb.cn but while they do not need to be cleaned and are good for privacy they do not help much with heat insulation as it is the trapped layer of air (or argon in case of sealed units) that does it the best. This is why honeycomb cellular blinds work so well, especially if installed leaving a gap of air in front of a double glazed window while minimising gaps around. Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 19May 06, 2009 8:29 am goskan Re double glazed venetians - I saw them when I was looking for affordable double glazing few years ago. I googled the term and found a few (there are more): http://www.vertilux.com.au/products/505.jsp http://www.qualital.com.au/integrated-blinds.html http://www.hunterdouglascommercial.com. ... inds/sb.cn but while they do not need to be cleaned and are good for privacy they do not help much with heat insulation as it is the trapped layer of air (or argon in case of sealed units) that does it the best. This is why honeycomb cellular blinds work so well, especially if installed leaving a gap of air in front of a double glazed window while minimising gaps around. interesting - perhaps why the sample hubby saw was in a laundry door where the heat insulation properties aren't as important?? Re: heat blocking window treatments, honeycomb? sunscreen?help? 20May 06, 2009 4:42 pm 78xtc sorry to hijack the thread but has anyone seen the windows that have almost like a venetian blind inside the glass? Hubby works in the glass industry and was telling me about this window - he said the sample he saw was fitted into a laundry door - it has a mechanism which allows you to open & close the blind but the actual blind is completely sealed inside the glass. He showed me the picture ages ago - he said it was a competitors sample & they were going to try and replicate it but as yet they haven't got anything ready yet... We have it... there are 2 versions, one you can raise and angle the blind, the other you can only angle the blades. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 I have a toilet that blocks up on the top (2nd) floor of a property. The toilets on the 1st and ground floor are OK) Blockage clears when the using a plunger. But… 0 505 DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair 3 pipes are coming from upstairs bathroom. 40mm from bathroom sink, 50mm from shower and another 50mm from the bathtub. Highly unlikely that any of these will be open at… 2 883 There may be answers here but can't find anything. I have a closed in veranda, four windows. North facing, just had sunblock blinds installed. A bit cooler (actually… 0 3549 |