Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Feb 15, 2009 5:36 pm Hi Ed,
We have double glazed Dowell aluminum windows in our new home and are considering tinting the windows on the west side, with the hope that this will also assist with keeping the heat out - no idea if this will help or not. Having just read a previous post about tinting windows, I can see that you have suggested a particular type of tint if window is hit with direct sun. Firstly, do you recommend this? If so, would be grateful for your advice. Thanks! WeezB Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 2Feb 15, 2009 7:51 pm Hi Weezb
Plain tinting will worsen your solar heat gain problem. You need a solar control film. Ask a local tint company to source the 3M product. PM me if they can't find it... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 6Feb 25, 2009 6:02 pm reaver Hi Ed, are the 3M tints DIY? Is it the type that I can put on the window myself? I have installed the obscure film no problem. But the tints are thin and fiddly. IMO get an expert. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 7Mar 02, 2009 2:46 pm Hi Ed,
I contacted one company re 3M tint but they didn't recommend tinting double glazed windows due to the possibility the window could crack immediately or in 10 years or never! Something to do with the heat process of tinting the window. Does this sound right to you?? Thanks again! WeezB Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 8Mar 02, 2009 5:27 pm WeezB Hi Ed, I contacted one company re 3M tint but they didn't recommend tinting double glazed windows due to the possibility the window could crack immediately or in 10 years or never! Something to do with the heat process of tinting the window. Does this sound right to you?? Thanks again! WeezB Doesn't just sound not right, sounds stupid... it's the same glass whether double glazed or single glazed. And glass is made by being heated to red hot... Try someone else. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 9Mar 02, 2009 7:40 pm Thanks again ... will do!!
........ Have just had another google search to locate a Melbourne 3M company, but my search is only finding one (Solar X Pty Ltd) ... the one that I have already made contact with. I don't suppose you know of any in Victoria ???????? No worries if not! Cheers, WeezB Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 10Apr 20, 2009 8:23 pm You could try phoning 3M direct and speaking to one of their technical people. They have consumer help for just these sorts of questions Pix Built a (highly) modified Allcastle Maxworth 38.7 in Sydney. Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 11Apr 20, 2009 8:39 pm Pixelated You could try phoning 3M direct and speaking to one of their technical people. They have consumer help for just these sorts of questions Pix Sorry missed that one - I agree Pix... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 12May 08, 2009 1:39 pm Hi Ed I've returned for another question for you!! Indeed I followed advice and called 3M directly and they helped in finding a 3M sales rep who came to visit our home to check out our windows. Not sure how to explain this but basically he did a thermal test and due to the size of our windows they did not recommend solar tinting in between the double glazing, as it was pretty likely they would crack. Unfortunately this was the better product, as it offered a life time guarantee and required no maintenance. He was able to offer another solution and that is to tint the outside of the window with a similar 3M product, but it only offered a 4 year guarantee, but believed we would get c.8yrs if we were prepared to maintain them regularly ... and maintaining means regular cleaning to ensure dirt and dust doesn't build up and scratch off the tint. Do you have an opinion on tinting externally? Many thanks to anyone who has an opinion/experience with this product. CHEERS! Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 13May 08, 2009 1:56 pm WeezB Hi Ed I've returned for another question for you!! Indeed I followed advice and called 3M directly and they helped in finding a 3M sales rep who came to visit our home to check out our windows. Not sure how to explain this but basically he did a thermal test and due to the size of our windows they did not recommend solar tinting in between the double glazing, as it was pretty likely they would crack. Unfortunately this was the better product, as it offered a life time guarantee and required no maintenance. He was able to offer another solution and that is to tint the outside of the window with a similar 3M product, but it only offered a 4 year guarantee, but believed we would get c.8yrs if we were prepared to maintain them regularly ... and maintaining means regular cleaning to ensure dirt and dust doesn't build up and scratch off the tint. Do you have an opinion on tinting externally? Many thanks to anyone who has an opinion/experience with this product. CHEERS! Sorry, I am not familiar with the external product. If you like, ask him to call me and tell me why he thinks an internal film will crack the glass... never heard of this phenomenon. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 15May 11, 2009 9:24 am WeezB I really appreciate that, thanks! You've been extremely helpful You're welcome, I am interested in the reason... "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Message for ed re tinting windows 16May 11, 2009 1:27 pm Dear WeezB,
I have heard the problem of a film being the reason for cracking. The dark tint absorbs the heat. If that happens unevenly over the pane of glass due to the sun hitting only a part of the unit you might end up with a heat stress crack. Tougehened glass is one way around it. See alos the news release of the AWA http://www.awa.org.au/news (for the full release contact me directly). As you already have double glazing I agree with ad that a reflective coating might help. Nonetheless this should have been applied on the inside of the double glass unit not on the outside. Especially in regard to cleaning the window this additional films can cause issues. From the sounds of it there could be three reasons for your heat problem. A.) The double glazing is faulty and was assembled wrong with an existing coating being on the wrong pane or side of the glass pane. B.) Air Infiltration – Your double glazing is alright but the air leakage through lack or crappy gaskets allows in heat. C.) The direct sun is an issue for the clear double glazing you choose. As I expect the third issue I would look into external shading options to keep the sun of the glass, awnings or louver shutters or something similar is should be suitable. At the end of the day it’s still glass and direct summer sun is always tricky (radiation issue). A film reduces the daylight transmission and can make the room quite dark. The external shades would allow you to at least utilise the winter sun on the other hand. A tint would not allow that. Best regards
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