Browse Forums Windows & Doors 1 Feb 17, 2007 11:43 pm Hi
I have recently bought a 40 year old timber home in Moorooka QLD. At the moment it is fitted with the original windows which I am looking to change. They are a bit difficult to explain but I'll give it a go. They fold out, they are like small french doors except without folding out to the side they fold out from the bottom.... Ughh hope that makes sense. Anyway I would love to get some small french doorish windows (the ones that fold out to the side) fitted for more of a classic look. Would anyone know what these types of windows are called and if they know where would be my best point of contact for making some enquires? Thanks heaps Dan Re: What type of windows do I have 2Jun 19, 2007 5:02 am Hmmm - sounds like (but only just) you have a hopper window.. hinged at the bottom. (send a photo please!!!)
And you would like to replace it with a casement window (like a French door). Casement windows gerberally open out - if you want an open in style you could replace this with a tilt and turn window. Tilt and turn windows combine a hopper action with an inward opening casement and are popular in Europe. Turn the handle one way and it opens inwards hinged at the side, close it and turn another 90 degrees and it opens inwards hinged at the bottom. The disadvantage of this window is that you must fit a flyscreen to the face of the window and this detracts from the appearance. Commonly available in uPVC and for timber homes can come in a timber finish (or any other colour). Ed Ed If I write "I" please read "We"! Be good. Re: What type of windows do I have 3Jun 20, 2007 11:45 am Being in QLD, yes they are the hopper windows which are pretty common in your area. Hindged at the top and the bottom pushes out.
Typically there are 2 windows (one above the other) and sometime another set side by side as well - depending on the room. You will find the hoppers are very good in the summer downpours (Yes I know that does not happen of late) ![]() If you replace them with casements, *french door style) these are very good at being used to catch a breeze that might be flowing past your house, as one window can be opened and act like a arm to bring the breeze inside. But not good in the rain. Check the layout of your house and the common breeze directions (winter and summer) before you change them, or you might find the windows can't be left open when it does finaly rain up there. Moorkoka can get some pretty violent storms so windows that don't let rain in are a good idea. ![]() I grew up in Coorparoo and we had casements and hoppers innour house. Hoppers East and west, casement on the North and South side to catch the breezes. Hope this helps Steve Re: What type of windows do I have 4Jun 20, 2007 6:09 pm ![]() ... You will find the hoppers are very good in the summer downpours (Yes I know that does not happen of late) ![]() Check the layout of your house and the common breeze directions (winter and summer) before you change them, or you might find the windows can't be left open when it does finaly rain up there. Moorkoka can get some pretty violent storms so windows that don't let rain in are a good idea. ![]() I grew up in Coorparoo and we had casements and hoppers innour house. Hoppers East and west, casement on the North and South side to catch the breezes. Hope this helps Steve The awning style window will not let rain in... ![]() "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: What type of windows do I have 5Jun 20, 2007 6:25 pm Yes, a hopper style window (hinged from the top edge)
See pic of the model I mean Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ As opposed to the lower edge hinged models. ![]() design in my books as it is useless if it rains - yes I have lived with them... Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ or the standard casement windows below. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Just so we are all on the same track ![]() The upper hinged hopper - Can pretty much be left open and it will not let much if any rain in. ie leave it iopen a few inches is OK, but not wide open (horizontal open) or the rain come in over the top of the glass and the sides. They basicaly work like a glass awning. I also have them on my current house in SA, and I leave them open 4 or 5 inches in summer and when it rains (I have no eves on this section) ![]() Sure a really heavy bucketing with wind blown rain will blow in the lower corners, but pretty much they are OK to leave open and will let a breeze in at all times - Ideal in Brissy and the tropics. I lived with the same style windows in Sweden and the UK, and I left them open 1 cm or so - which lets the room get some air but the rain no matter how hard it blew did not come in. I'm a big fan of hopper and louvre style windows for this very reason. They let air in but not the water ![]() But lourves no matter how well they seal, are not ideal for colder climates. Unless you have a secondary glazing insert for winter to stop the leaking breeze that gets through them. ![]() Steve Re: What type of windows do I have 6Jun 20, 2007 7:56 pm Way to go Steve I was just about to post some photos up and scrolled down to see you had already……Great!
I love the casements; they are just so smart looking. Be warned, all of these windows need their fly screens on the inside. Which sometimes makes it a bit difficult, as we are Aussie’s we need the fly screens. So don’t forget to look into that as well. ![]() Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: What type of windows do I have 7Jun 20, 2007 8:13 pm Hi air_man,
tilt and turn is the way to go. The hardware is far advanced and more practical compared to those awning or casement windows. Plus your flyscreen is on the outside and there is no need to remove them first if you want to open your window...... ![]() Re: What type of windows do I have 8Jun 21, 2007 10:14 am ![]() Yes, a hopper style window (hinged from the top edge) See pic of the model I mean Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ As opposed to the lower edge hinged models. ![]() design in my books as it is useless if it rains - yes I have lived with them... Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Hi Steve, The top hinged sash is commonly known as an awning window in Australia, yes it is best for wet weather... Your second pic shows an outward opening hopper - but these are also available in inward opeing e.g same as a Tilt & Turn style... Quote: The upper hinged hopper - Can pretty much be left open and it will not let much if any rain in. ie leave it iopen a few inches is OK, but not wide open (horizontal open) or the rain come in over the top of the glass and the sides. Quote: I'm a big fan of hopper and louvre style windows for this very reason. They let air in but not the water ![]() Quote: But lourves no matter how well they seal, are not ideal for colder climates. Unless you have a secondary glazing insert for winter to stop the leaking breeze that gets through them. ![]() Steve "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: What type of windows do I have 9Jun 21, 2007 12:13 pm ![]() Hi air_man, tilt and turn is the way to go. The hardware is far advanced and more practical compared to those awning or casement windows. Plus your flyscreen is on the outside and there is no need to remove them first if you want to open your window...... ![]() Hello windowexpert I agree on hardware... it is very good on a tilt and turn. On flyscreens... In general timber and aluminium windows in Australia have integrated flyscreens which you can operate with the flyscreen in place via a chainwinder or "Truth" style winder. With uPVC the window and extrusion designs in Australia are either USA or European and don't take a flyscreen. But at EcoClassic we have designed and patented an internal flyscreen that allows the window to be opened with the screen in place (and without removing the flyscreen). This goes for awning and casement windows. With a double hung window the flyscreen is integrated into the frame on the outside of the window and coloured the same as the window. All these look really good externally or internally. With the tilt and turn - the only way to fit a flyscreen is to fit it to the face of the window (as the window opens internally) - and this really detracts for the appearance of the window. Andrew "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: What type of windows do I have 10Jun 21, 2007 1:38 pm Quote: Hi Steve, The top hinged sash is commonly known as an awning window in Australia, yes it is best for wet weather... Thanks the the education Andrew - I've never heard them called an awning window. We learn something everyday. ![]() Shall we now get onto the pros and cons of the old sliding window that only allows a maximum of 50 or 30% actual opening and breeze flow through ![]() Steve Re: What type of windows do I have 11Jun 22, 2007 5:14 am ![]() Thanks the the education Andrew - I've never heard them called an awning window. We learn something everyday. ![]() Shall we now get onto the pros and cons of the old sliding window that only allows a maximum of 50 or 30% actual opening and breeze flow through ![]() Steve You are welcome Steve ![]() The Sliding Window... which may be old but will live forever! Aluminium The most common window because it is cheap to make, easily takes a flyscreen and can use cheap hardware - this is why it is used in 90% of project homes. It is at least 25% cheaper than the other styles of openable windows. It's main value is in a verandah or access situation where the opened sash does not encroach into the space outside (unlike an awning or casement). Some use rollers (which wear and need the track cleaning regularly to keep them working) and some use glides (A&L) which are heavier to push. Generally cannot be double glazed (only good reason for this is that it is the lowest cost option and if you want double glazing you will generally want to upgrade the window style too. Some manufcaturers supply their sliding door as a double glazed sliding window!). Appearancewise - thin aluminium with no redeeming features. Has drain holes punched into the sill which should be kept clean. And yes it lets the rain in ![]() uPVC Heavier sections looks similar to awning and casement and priced about the same. Has a very useful feature where all sashes can slide and the flyscreen can slide to cover the opening. ![]() ![]() Always uses rollers. And yes it lets the rain in ![]() And we sell both aluminium and uPVC ![]() ![]() Andrew "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: What type of windows do I have 12Jun 22, 2007 11:58 am Yep,
The main "benefit" I see in the sliders is the lack of arm and head banging bits that hang out over the path/verandah. ![]() But I really hate the air they block in warmer climes. ![]() I'm currently redesigned my parents lounge area to enable more air flow through because they have a sliding windows where the actual opening is less than 30% of the hole in the wall. So in summer they struggle to get a breeze through the house because it has nowhere to get in or out. And - I'll review the uPVC for an eatery bench to my verandah - I was thinking bifolds with a roller blind fly screen from the side to get a really big open space, but maybe........ Re double glazing for existing sliders, there are other ways and I'm working on it ![]() Cheers Steve Re: What type of windows do I have 13Jun 22, 2007 3:39 pm ![]() Re double glazing for existing sliders, there are other ways and I'm working on it ![]() Cheers Steve You could install another single glazed aluminium slider inside the reveal... But as close as practicable as larger air spces are not so efficient... Andrew "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 A engineer designed slab on screw piles with void formers could be another option. 32 6847 Our house was built in 2008 It has birch white windows has rendered walls. We are looking to repaint everything inside and out. I'm wondering what colour schemes have… 0 2755 The reason that double glazed windows perform so well as insulators is not in the glass, it is in the airgap. https://www.homeone.com.au/articles/doo ...… 20 9080 ![]() |