Browse Forums Paving & Concreting Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 21Aug 22, 2009 8:34 pm We have coloured through concrete in the back. It was done in 2 batches. The first batch was done 3 weeks ago. Our concreter has not shown up to seal it yet. There are muddy cat prints and patchy white areas as well. He has tried to wash it away with a normal hose, but it doesn't work. What is the best way to get rid of them? The second batch of concrete was poured early this week. He has sealed it once- I think. But there are 2 large patches that looks wet, but doesn't dry. It looks like a thin puddle of water about 0.5m diameter. My DH thinks it is sealant. The area looks patchy. We are having so much problems as he doesn't return our calls. He only shows up for 30mins or 1 hour, do a bit of work, then leaves. We then don't see him for days, or weeks! He never show up as promised. It has been almost 2 months since he started. He was suppose to do a strip of concrete footing for a sliding gate, but he ran out of concrete on the day! Help! What should we do? Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 22Aug 22, 2009 10:42 pm Have you paid him anthing? onc_artisan Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 23Aug 23, 2009 8:38 am Post some pics show us his work Hope ya havent paid him the full amount People like him make me angry , go through the same situation with some of my contractors cheeky sods considering how much dosh thay make Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 24Aug 23, 2009 3:43 pm Good points Concreater And what is this about oxide weakening concrete.. Morelike when you add the colour to the top of the concrete after placement, it will definately be weaken the surface Onc_artisan Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 25Aug 23, 2009 7:07 pm No. He has asked for more money, but I only gave him a bit at a time. We still have 2k to pay, only when he does finish the job. It's a bit dark right now for photos. I will see I get some tomorrow. However, it is predicted rain tonight..... Not really sure what to do....We were thinking that if things get sour and he walks off the job, we may have to spray colour on it. At the moment, aside from the sealant puddles, the pathway concrete (poured weeks ago) and the patio concrete is different shades of colour. Sorry to hijack this thread. But we are a bit loss as what to do. Are we jumping the gun a bit? Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 26Sep 02, 2009 11:41 am We have been asked if we want to colour our driveway and path's as we have oaid to have our veranda & alfresco coloured (Bluestone/ black) which will be a colour on top as they will be part of the slab. They have suggested paint on top and colour through (almost double the cost as paint on top) and the quote doesnt include sealing. Can I ask, what is better, colour through or on top? and am I right that I would want to seal with both methods? Should I be asking and insiting that my alfresco & veranda are sealed also? I have read a few threads and I am still confused so any advice from someone more knowledgable than myself would be appreciated Blog: http://funmore-residence.blogspot.com/ Forum: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=21109 Construction Start - 19/09/09 Slab Poured - 21/10/09 Frame Completed - 25/11/09 Lockup - 22/12/09 Fixing - 22/02/10 Handover & Moved In 30/04/2010 Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 27Sep 02, 2009 3:10 pm Hi What is the texture that you would like to end up with ? Painting the slab with a paint is a No No as it will delaminate with hydrostatic pressure while your concrete tries to hydrate and cure, Dont know why you would place a sealer over the paint also. There are many cool options available all depending on what texture you desire, Coloured sealers are ok but dont last long before having to replace them due to UV. Any chance of a piccy on here so i can see what you have to work with What area are you in ? Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 28Sep 02, 2009 4:48 pm getnewlookjason Hi What is the texture that you would like to end up with ? Painting the slab with a paint is a No No as it will delaminate with hydrostatic pressure while your concrete tries to hydrate and cure, Dont know why you would place a sealer over the paint also. There are many cool options available all depending on what texture you desire, Coloured sealers are ok but dont last long before having to replace them due to UV. Any chance of a piccy on here so i can see what you have to work with What area are you in ? Sorry, I maybe using the wrong terminology. The options I have is colour on top or colour through, I just presume it was paint, I dont really understand a lot when it comes to concrete So do I take from that I dont need to seal colour on top? or just not when its on the slab? I will be building in the outer eastern burbs of Melbourne Blog: http://funmore-residence.blogspot.com/ Forum: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=21109 Construction Start - 19/09/09 Slab Poured - 21/10/09 Frame Completed - 25/11/09 Lockup - 22/12/09 Fixing - 22/02/10 Handover & Moved In 30/04/2010 Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 29Sep 04, 2009 12:07 am Either Onc_artisan Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 30Sep 17, 2009 9:37 pm I have decided that we will go with the colour through effect as I feel that will last longest once they give a quote for sealing the driveway and path, if thats not too bad then ok. They plan to charge $675 for our colour through drive and path so hopefully sealing it wont be much more. Our drive will only be ablut 4m long and the path wont be much longer so I will wait & see on the quote. Thanks for the tips Blog: http://funmore-residence.blogspot.com/ Forum: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=21109 Construction Start - 19/09/09 Slab Poured - 21/10/09 Frame Completed - 25/11/09 Lockup - 22/12/09 Fixing - 22/02/10 Handover & Moved In 30/04/2010 Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 31Sep 18, 2009 1:41 pm I am in exactly the same possition trying to work ourt if I used coloured concrete all the way through or just on top with the colour sealer. I have been told 4 different opinions by 4 different concreters. Do i need to colour seal conrete that has the colour all the way though? Gee I wish that the concreters all told me the same info so I could compare apples and apples! If I have to seal colour all the way through concrete and also the colour on top..... why would you bother paying the more expensive one? *****FINISH BUILDING SOON!***** Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 32Sep 19, 2009 10:17 pm Trowel on oxides weaken the surface of the concrete as it replaces/extends cement. Premixed is prefered in my book and less likely to be subject to colour variation. Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 33Sep 21, 2009 8:41 am onc_artisan Trowel on oxides weaken the surface of the concrete as it replaces/extends cement. Premixed is prefered in my book and less likely to be subject to colour variation. Thats what I thought so if sealing is not to expensive I will run with that. Can you tell me how often a coloured drive needs re-sealing? Blog: http://funmore-residence.blogspot.com/ Forum: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=21109 Construction Start - 19/09/09 Slab Poured - 21/10/09 Frame Completed - 25/11/09 Lockup - 22/12/09 Fixing - 22/02/10 Handover & Moved In 30/04/2010 Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 34Sep 21, 2009 8:12 pm That depends on the site.. ie: sunny, weather, traffic. But prolly every few years Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Through? 35Sep 21, 2009 9:42 pm onc_artisan That depends on the site.. ie: sunny, weather, traffic. But prolly every few years No worries, I think I can deal with that Thanks for the advice Blog: http://funmore-residence.blogspot.com/ Forum: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=21109 Construction Start - 19/09/09 Slab Poured - 21/10/09 Frame Completed - 25/11/09 Lockup - 22/12/09 Fixing - 22/02/10 Handover & Moved In 30/04/2010 Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Throu 36Mar 24, 2012 5:47 pm We went for full depth coloured concrete because coloured top coatings require regular (at least every two years) reapplication to keep it looking good. Our professional concreters prefer working with Hanson concrete so we went for Hanson's Mocha because we wanted an Earthy brown colour. Within three days of being finished off it was bright salmon pink. Neighbours commented that it was an eye sore and one neighbour asked when we were going to raise the gay flag. I emailed pictures to Hanson and they didn't contact me back but they did contact my concreters. They have agreed supply several drums of sealer which should give it a darker "wet look". We have been saving up the money for ten years to concrete our driveway and what should have been a great project has turned out to be a very stressful experience for us. Re: Coloured Concrete Driveway - Top layer or Coloured Throu 37Mar 29, 2012 10:24 am Unless your a fan of bold colours for your house then, colour through is the way to go. Its finicky so you need a smart concretor. Also I would use a bagged oxide from a reputable company, Ability chemicals I have found to be the best. Hanson uses liquid colour in the concrete. I find it far more unreliable. Also the colour chart in their brochure is way off the real product. Colour on can last a long time but its so often applied poorly, ie when the concrete is too wet, may be easier on the day but trowelling all the water in leads to a weak surface and the colour wearing off in the future. 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