Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Jul 11, 2020 11:09 pm Hi All, Currently in the planning stage with our builder and are wanting to have the tiles in our en-suite shower all the way up the wall (not just slightly above the screen) They told us we will need to go with a square set cornice if we wanted to do this. I’m concerned that this will look odd as the rest of the house has just the regular cove cornice. Is it possible to tile the wall up to the ceiling having a cove cornice? Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 2Jul 11, 2020 11:32 pm Absolutely it's possible. The builder needs to hold off installing the cornice until the tiling is done then the cornice sits on the tiles. It does mean that the ceiling fixers have to make a return trip to finish those areas but it's no big deal. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 3Jul 12, 2020 6:27 pm A related question. If the wall is to be tiled to the ceiling without cornice should the plasterboard be square set before tiling or is it normal to just tile up to the untaped ceiling joint and silicone along the tile line joint? Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 4Jul 25, 2020 5:46 pm deleay Hi All, Currently in the planning stage with our builder and are wanting to have the tiles in our en-suite shower all the way up the wall (not just slightly above the screen) They told us we will need to go with a square set cornice if we wanted to do this. I’m concerned that this will look odd as the rest of the house has just the regular cove cornice. Is it possible to tile the wall up to the ceiling having a cove cornice? There is no reason a tiler cannot tile up to the underside of a cove cornice. The process is no different to tiling up to a square set, you just cut off more of the tile. Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 5Jul 25, 2020 7:23 pm pastor399 deleay Hi All, Currently in the planning stage with our builder and are wanting to have the tiles in our en-suite shower all the way up the wall (not just slightly above the screen) They told us we will need to go with a square set cornice if we wanted to do this. I’m concerned that this will look odd as the rest of the house has just the regular cove cornice. Is it possible to tile the wall up to the ceiling having a cove cornice? There is no reason a tiler cannot tile up to the underside of a cove cornice. The process is no different to tiling up to a square set, you just cut off more of the tile. A tiler can do that easily but you lose the bottom lip of the cornice as it's roughly 10mm and so is the tile and glue. In fact some tiles with glue can even be thicker than the bottom edge of the cornice, it just never looks right. The correct way to do full height tiling is outlined above. If you aren't having a cornice you don't need to square set it first but the ceiling sheets need to be cut tight to the walls as you don't have much cover with the tiles. You can apply tile to the underside of the ceiling and then gap the junction. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 6Jul 27, 2020 9:45 pm "Absolutely it's possible. The builder needs to hold off installing the cornice until the tiling is done then the cornice sits on the tiles. It does mean that the ceiling fixers have to make a return trip to finish those areas but it's no big deal." What we've done in the past Chippy is pad out the cornice with some offcuts of plasterboard nailed onto the studs just above where the bottom of the cornice will sit. That way the plasterers can finish the room and the painter can paint the ceiling, The tiler then tiles up to the bottom of the cornice. It will depend too on how thick your tiles + glue are as to how far you pad out the cornice. "A tiler can do that easily but you lose the bottom lip of the cornice as it's roughly 10mm and so is the tile and glue. In fact some tiles with glue can even be thicker than the bottom edge of the cornice, it just never looks right." I agree. We looked at a neighbours house for sale on the weekend and the cornice looks chopped off. Stewie Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 7Jul 28, 2020 10:41 am Square set ceiling with tiling up to it looks much cleaner and nicer than cornice. The finish is much better and when steam risers you dont get the sharp edge of the cornice blackening due to moisture catching. A lot more builders are doing this as standard. Check out Clarendon web for there bathrooms as they have been doing it for a long time now Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 8Jul 28, 2020 11:24 am As per the OP Splashers... " I’m concerned that this will look odd as the rest of the house has just the regular cove cornice. " While I like either square set or even better, shadow line at the wall/ceiling junction, I think if you have cornice in the rest of the house then you should continue that theme in the bathrooms too. Once again, it just comes down to personal preference. Stewie Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 9Aug 11, 2020 5:45 pm We are currently building in QLD. cornice is already attached, water proofing is also done. Builder is saying they will install Vanity tomorrow. Next will be paint work in ceiling. After that, tiling will be done up to ceiling. I have no idea what they will do with cornice. I agree that it will be impossible to have bottom edge of cornice as tile + glue will be ~12 to 15mm thick while cornice bottom edge is 10mm thick with slight angle. Builders are the people from another world. Hard to convince if It is not in their SOP (standard operating procedure). I have also questioned why do they do vanity installation before tiling. Bcoz that will be save few tiles. But it will look cheap if we want to change vanity with some another option (e.a. wall hung) in future. Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 10Aug 12, 2020 11:17 am In the Building game its hard to say SOP as everyone builds processes are different and sometimes there are no right or wrong ways to do things. If they have installed the cornice already they may have packed out the cornice from the wall in order to allow the tile to go under and still have a lip showing. If they have not packed out the cornice i would be putting a long level on the walls after tiling to see if the walls are plumb. Majority of builders will install vanities first as its easy for the joiner to fix them in place as he can still locate studs at this point and generally can see where the water pipes are in the wall. If you tile first these 2 factors become hidden and more chance of either the vanity not fixing securely or hitting the water pipes. Always best to paint ceilings first in wet areas as they generally spray them and this stops overspray of paint on the tiles and into the grout. Re: Bathroom Cornice Type 11Aug 22, 2020 10:09 pm Splashers thanks for the reply. Now tiling is done for my project today.. cornice was already installed before tiling without any spacer. Tiler has installed tile below the bottom lip & now bottom lip is hidden & tile is 2mm extended from the bottom lip level. Looks bit cheap for me. But it all depends on individual's view. The photo is not really clear but to me it looks like twist in the cornice. 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