Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Sep 08, 2014 10:29 pm Hi, We have a fairly small bathroom area to work with but are hoping to fit in both a small bath and a separate shower in a bathroom renovation. I'm wondering if you need to add any surrounds (i.e. extra width and length) to the bath tub when putting it on a frame for support and tiling around it. For example, here's a link to an inset bath 1525 x 735mm. Does that mean it would fit in a space of 1525 x 735 with a tile surround included (and the necessary support framing under the bath). Or do you require an additional 100mm around the edges or anything like that in order to install? http://www.caroma.com.au/bathrooms/bath ... -1525-bath I like the clean bath to tile look - kind of like the tub/tile shown in this picture http://www.hgtv.com/designers-portfolio ... index.html Also hoping that it will save some space if we don't have to put a tile edge around the bath and add another 100mm to the length and width. The walls on two sides of bath are double brick which has been rendered. Is waterproofing required for the walls? Or is the silicone applied around the top edges to seal the bath in enough? (I've tried to do a bit of research on google but coming up blank with a few of the details). Thanks Re: Installing Inset Bath 2Sep 09, 2014 6:15 am You don't have to add any extra space around. If you download the plumbers handbook from the caroma link you supplied you'll see how it can be installed or you can buy it with a metal frame. http://camdenbuild.blogspot.com.au/ by invite only please pm me Re: Installing Inset Bath 3Sep 09, 2014 12:39 pm Those types of baths are designed to be inset into the wall about 20mm at the ends and on one side. As per the manual that you linked to and Robbie55 mentions although the diagram of the in-wall installation isn't that good. This one is a little better although it is for a stud frame Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ What distance do you have between the two finished surfaces of the rendered walls ? Sometimes ( and that depends on the total width of your room ) we have battened the wall out to suit or recessed in one long edge and one end then had a small tiled shelf at the other end. Stewie Re: Installing Inset Bath 4Sep 09, 2014 10:32 pm Thanks Stewie D - that's very helpful. The width of the bathroom is 2250 but in that we were hoping to get the bath (width 765mm), toilet (within 765mm) and a vanity (700mm). The two walls that the bath will be up against (the walls are at a right angle and the shower will be at the other end of the bath - the room is not a simple rectangle) - one is the outside wall and the other a brick wall that separates the bathroom from the lounge room. So I am guessing by what you are saying that a batten would need to be placed on each wall to accommodate the rim of the bath tub (as it would be too difficult (and costly) to make a groove large enough in the rendered/brick wall to accommodate the rim). Would the battens only have to be around 20mm? Even with that small increase in width it might make the placement of bath/toilet/vanity too tight in the space we have? Robbie55 - thanks for pointing out the plumbing manual too. Re: Installing Inset Bath 5Sep 10, 2014 9:03 am Quote: So I am guessing by what you are saying that a batten would need to be placed on each wall to accommodate the rim of the bath tub (as it would be too difficult (and costly) to make a groove large enough in the rendered/brick wall to accommodate the rim). Would the battens only have to be around 20mm? Even with that small increase in width it might make the placement of bath/toilet/vanity too tight in the space we have? No you are better off rebating the wall 20mm in by the height of the bath rim. In the above picture as you can see the bath is inset allowing the tiles to come right down onto the bath. You also gain another 20mm which sounds important in your smallish bathroom. It wouldn't take too long to make the rebate either for someone with a wet saw and a diamond blade which is what I used to use. Stewie Re: Installing Inset Bath 6Sep 11, 2014 1:45 pm Hey Stewie. Thanks again. Having the correct terminology helped me find an installation guide which shows me exactly how a brick rebate for the bath would work. Really appreciate your time. http://www.englefield.co.nz/files/Insta ... _A01_I.pdf AC Re: Installing Inset Bath 7Sep 11, 2014 3:08 pm It's pretty much the same scenario whether for a brick or timber wall. Chase out the brick wall or cut a rebate in the timber. Whichever way, the part the rim sits on should be as level as possible. 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