Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Feb 16, 2014 2:35 pm Hi there, Myself and partner have just brought our first home. It's 3 bed, postwar, highset on concrete stumps with one very small bathroom. When I say small bathroom, I truly mean it - it's 1900mm x 1730mm. It did have an old shower and vanity, but we just had it all ripped out, as it also had asbestos walls. So, we're about to start our bathroom again from scratch. We were considering, combining the separate toilet next door, to give us more room (which would make it something around 2890 by 1730) and then bringing part of the bathroom out, in to the hall by another 400ishmm, but have decided as it is the only toilet in our 3 bed family house, we should keep it separate. We may still bring part of the bathroom out by that extra 400mm, but it's not across the whole depth - it's just about the width of the door, because we have a cupboard that we don't want to loose in the hallway. We have a young toddler, with another on the way and so we definitely need a bath, which means we're going to have to go for the dreaded bath/shower combo. . Unfortunately there's no point suggesting trying to have these two elements separate, as there's no way we can. We just don't have the space. I'm sorry I'm so anti combos, but have come on here, hoping to hear some good stories/great recommendations on how brilliant they can be??!! Does anyone have one? Where is your bath from? Do you have a non slippery surface? Dimensionwise, what makes for a good bath/shower combo? Wide/shallow etc?? Do you have a drop in bath? Any freestanders? Our bathroom is so small, couldn't have a fancy freestander, however I did see a really nice freestanding corner bath, that isn't bulky and slots in to a corner at Highgrove Bathrooms. 1500mm by 700mm, wasn't sure if something like that could work, but not sure about slippery surface. Any points in particular we should consider before choosing which bath to use? Would LOVE to hear. I've been looking on the net, but doesn't seem to be much information and I want to make sure we get the best bath for the job and for our growing family. Thanks very much and looking forward to being converted to a pro-bath & shower combo owner . Re: Bath shower combos 2Feb 17, 2014 9:24 am Quote: 1900mm x 1730mm Luxury ! Ours is 1740 x 1700mm so it is even smaller. Your layout sounds very similar to ours although our walls are brick. You should post up a floorplan on this thread with measurements and openings just so we are on the same page. You will be limited to what you can do especially seeing baths come in standard sizes and that the bathroom even expanded is still a bit on the small size. Here is ours for comparison. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ If we were keeping the house ( KDR ) I'd do as you suggest and push the bathroom out flush with the hallway wall and either remove the toilet wall or keep it but put the door into the bathroom. Then I'd make the linen press where the old toilet door was. Stewie Re: Bath shower combos 3Feb 17, 2014 12:22 pm Thanks very much for your response . I'm not sure how to do a floorplan other than by hand but ours looks very much like yours! We only though have one window in the bathroom, which is 710mm in from the left hand corner, back wall, and 765mm from the right. Window is old casement, 420w. Not sure how to post a pic on here? Am thinking only option is to have bath/shower combo placed as yours is, keeping linen cupboard as is and bringing bathroom wall out in line with cupboard. Just gives a little bit more room, where the door opens. Thinking of also bringing the toilet out in line with this and putting a small basin in there. We did consider and it would be good to have one door, ie. Entry to toilet from bathroom, but with a growing family and being only one toilet in the VN house we need to be able to access it, without entering bathroom in case another family member is in there. All fine when kids are little but not as get bigger and become more shy!!! These things are never easy Do you have a combo in your place? Re: Bath shower combos 4Feb 17, 2014 8:11 pm Do a detailed sketch by hand then scan it, save it as a jpeg and then post it here. Search for "how to post a photo". I find imageshack to be the best online photo hosting website. Once I see the dimensions, I can do a before and after floorplan of your bathroom pretty quick. Yes, it is a shower over the bath. Old cast iron bath with an offset shower because of the window. Stewie Re: Bath shower combos 5Feb 18, 2014 4:05 am I also am building the dreaded shower-bath combo, in order to be able to accommodate a large bath, circulation room and a shower in the guest bath. The recommendations I got for making it special were: --Buy a really nice shower head with attached hand shower (great for cleaning the bath and shampooing little heads). A rail shower is ideal if a lot of people of different heights will be using the set up. Get a coordinating tub filler. --Invest in tile you really like, and keep the shampoos, etc corralled with tile niches (remember that its a small space, so you can justify the higher cost per sq m). --I was recommended to get a good frameless glass door, but I'm not sure that's the best for kids. Can you get these curved rods in Australia? http://www.houzz.com/photos/391135/Smal ... om-chicago --Itemize everything you're going to want to keep in the bath to guide you in deciding what to do with the vanity, etc.. For example, you could decide the towels will hang to dry elsewhere, but if you want them kept in the bath you need to plan for it. --Can you afford a luxury touches like underfloor heating? Safer and, I think, more effective for kids than an overhead heater. --Get a good ventilation fan with a timer or moisture sensor installed. The more people using the bath, the more you'll appreciate this And post that floor plan with measurements so we start working on fitting a second sink in the WC! Chris On the threshold of retirement... and trying to check my assumptions at the door Re: Bath shower combos 6Feb 18, 2014 8:58 pm Hi guys, Thanks for your emails Not sure if this is going to work, but here goes... Below is a drawing of the 2 rooms, I think it's almost accurate (friend's mum did it), Except the linen cupboard actually is longer and comes out to where the bathroom door frame is, I think you can see it in the pic below? If we were to bring the wall out inline with the bathroom I think it would gain around an extra 400/440mm Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The bathroom has been stripped already - in order to remove the asbestos. The toilet is as is in the picture. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Stewie how does your cast iron bath work? I love those, is it really squashed? Not sure they great for kids though, but they look fab. Have you guys seen this cool looking combo: http://www.duscholux.com/eu-en/room-solutions/attribute/piccolo-step-in-45/ Not sure available in OZ though, but I think it's a pretty cool idea. Thanks again for your help and suggestions so far. Re: Bath shower combos 7Feb 19, 2014 11:15 am ChrisE I also am building the dreaded shower-bath combo, in order to be able to accommodate a large bath, circulation room and a shower in the guest bath. The recommendations I got for making it special were: --Buy a really nice shower head with attached hand shower (great for cleaning the bath and shampooing little heads). A rail shower is ideal if a lot of people of different heights will be using the set up. Get a coordinating tub filler. --Invest in tile you really like, and keep the shampoos, etc corralled with tile niches (remember that its a small space, so you can justify the higher cost per sq m). --I was recommended to get a good frameless glass door, but I'm not sure that's the best for kids. Can you get these curved rods in Australia? http://www.houzz.com/photos/391135/Smal ... om-chicago --Itemize everything you're going to want to keep in the bath to guide you in deciding what to do with the vanity, etc.. For example, you could decide the towels will hang to dry elsewhere, but if you want them kept in the bath you need to plan for it. --Can you afford a luxury touches like underfloor heating? Safer and, I think, more effective for kids than an overhead heater. --Get a good ventilation fan with a timer or moisture sensor installed. The more people using the bath, the more you'll appreciate this And post that floor plan with measurements so we start working on fitting a second sink in the WC! ChrisE just wondered if you'd chosen your combo bath stuff yet? Be great to hear your selections Re: Bath shower combos 8Mar 01, 2014 4:09 pm Well... Okay. I chose an oversized tub, the Lanark Kimberley, which has a large flat area at the shower end. (The Posh Kensington is similar.) Hubby is tall! These have a sort of square shape, and I chose the Caroma Track rail shower + hand held, with a matching tub filler. (My builder had a limited set of options. We're scheduled to use a Posh Domaine fixed/swing glass panel. I'm trying to use a very un-Australian tile arrangement; not sure yet if the builder is going for it. Both of these tubs are too big for your space. They both are constructed with four-tile flanges --they are meant to sit inside an alcove, with the tile coming right down over the formed side of the tub. For your purposes, you definitely want a tub with tile flanges, rather than one that just sits on top of the hob. It just really simplifies waterproofing the shower alcove. I'm a big fan of enameled steel as opposed to fiberglass for longevity of the tub, so I'd suggest you look at the Caroma Shark 1675 which was my fall back if I couldn't get the bigger unit to fit. If either of you like a bath, you should really go out and try to put yourself in the tub and see if you'll fit. I'd stick with a curtain until the kids are older. You really should consider pushing both bathroom and wc out to at least the front edge of the linen closet --that's a lot of room you are forgoing. The WC is plenty wide enough for a little wall hung sink, but the extra length would help. Or move the wc's wall into the hallway as far as possible, and have the door open from the side wall instead. I suggest going to www.houzz.com; there's an option there to look at bathtubs in three wall alcoves. Which way do your windows face (very nice to have one in the wc!) and do you need to cover them for privacy? Chris On the threshold of retirement... and trying to check my assumptions at the door Re: Bath shower combos 9Mar 03, 2014 10:29 am We have one, it's fine. Lots of room to shower, and a bath for kids. No complaints. Ours was existing when we moved in so I don't know where they got it, but it's standard size. We have a shower curtain rather than a fixed glass panel. Re: Bath shower combos 10Mar 05, 2014 7:21 pm ChrisE Well... Okay. I chose an oversized tub, the Lanark Kimberley, which has a large flat area at the shower end. (The Posh Kensington is similar.) Hubby is tall! These have a sort of square shape, and I chose the Caroma Track rail shower + hand held, with a matching tub filler. (My builder had a limited set of options. We're scheduled to use a Posh Domaine fixed/swing glass panel. I'm trying to use a very un-Australian tile arrangement; not sure yet if the builder is going for it. Both of these tubs are too big for your space. They both are constructed with four-tile flanges --they are meant to sit inside an alcove, with the tile coming right down over the formed side of the tub. For your purposes, you definitely want a tub with tile flanges, rather than one that just sits on top of the hob. It just really simplifies waterproofing the shower alcove. I'm a big fan of enameled steel as opposed to fiberglass for longevity of the tub, so I'd suggest you look at the Caroma Shark 1675 which was my fall back if I couldn't get the bigger unit to fit. If either of you like a bath, you should really go out and try to put yourself in the tub and see if you'll fit. I'd stick with a curtain until the kids are older. You really should consider pushing both bathroom and wc out to at least the front edge of the linen closet --that's a lot of room you are forgoing. The WC is plenty wide enough for a little wall hung sink, but the extra length would help. Or move the wc's wall into the hallway as far as possible, and have the door open from the side wall instead. I suggest going to http://www.houzz.com; there's an option there to look at bathtubs in three wall alcoves. Which way do your windows face (very nice to have one in the wc!) and do you need to cover them for privacy? Hi Chris! Thanks for your message, I've only just seen it. Yes, I've been looking at Reece's Posh Kensington, I thought we might have room for this, or the Decina Modena. I know they're both about 820mm wide. I think we have about 1 metre before we hit the door (so the alcove is 1730 x 1000). Wasn't sure how much width we'd need. I've been looking at either the 1520 or 1650 (something like that) in length and then though we could have an edge at the end near the window, to put things on, with the shower head near the door). The 1520 if we went the Modena is shallower, 425mm compared the 495mm in the Posh. Shallower I think is better, for stepping in and out of. My partner's in the process of bringing the wc and bathroom wall out, in-line with the laundry cupboard. I'll attach some pics of what he's done so far: We will need to cover the windows for privacy they face out on the back of the house/deck, and at the moment they just have some rubbish old blinds on. Love to see how your bathroom progresses. Great to see some pics, if you'd like to share. What are you doing with the tiles? Once we've finally decided on the bath, tiles and vanity next Re: Bath shower combos 11Mar 05, 2014 7:24 pm TinaG We have one, it's fine. Lots of room to shower, and a bath for kids. No complaints. Ours was existing when we moved in so I don't know where they got it, but it's standard size. We have a shower curtain rather than a fixed glass panel. Good to know you're happy with yours Tina . Is that the only bathroom in your house? Love to see a pic, if you're happy to share Maybe we can all bring bath/shower combos in to vogue lol?!! Re: Bath shower combos 12Apr 25, 2014 1:02 am Looking good! We have a glass screen that swings on our combo. Makes it possible to put the plug in workes fine with the kids. Not sure where it is from sorry. Recently moved to a 60's home in need of some improvement! http://s797.photobucket.com/user/leenii ... ch%20House Old house: http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy25 ... loo/House/ Re: Bath shower combos 13Apr 25, 2014 11:45 pm I don't understand why people don't like bath shower combos. I grew up with one. You need to reference the manufactures installation guide, your supplier may have strengthened the base where it is not required to sit on a bed. 1 2270 Bathroom renovation will likely include a back-to-corner bath and we’re considering a freestanding tap with hand-held shower such as the picture included. My hesitation… 0 25247 2 4750 |